Psychedelic treatment linked to substantial reduction in alcohol misuse and PTSD

There’s an existing thread on mushrooms and depression, but this study used ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT, so needs it’s own thread:

Psychedelic treatment linked to substantial reduction in alcohol misuse and PTSD symptoms in US Special Operations Forces Veterans

A study of U.S. Special Operations Forces Veterans participating in an ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT treatment in Mexico showed that participants treated with these psychedelic substances showed a significant reduction in alcohol misuse 1 month after the start of the treatment. These effects persisted 6 months later and there was also a strong reduction in symptoms of posttraumatic stress disorder. The study was published in Military Psychology.

Participating in a war is a traumatic experience. Even for the highly trained personnel, elite soldiers chosen because of their outstanding physical and psychological resilience, exposure to combat situations, injuries and isolation have a profound adverse effect on health and well-being. To cope, many military veterans resort to drinking alcohol. Alcohol is the most misused substance by military personnel.

Cont: https://www.psypost.org/2023/03/psychedelic-treatment-linked-to-substantial-reduction-in-alcohol-misuse-and-ptsd-symptoms-in-us-special-operations-forces-veterans-74446

For those who wish to read the study: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08995605.2022.2156200

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Years ago, I participated in a thing for headaches, and took psilocybin. I completely lost interest in alcohol for a while, and have no idea why. I lost interest in tobacco for several years. Neither were goals or topics of discussion.

Cleared up the headaches, too, which I have also seen demonstrated in other persons with blast injuries. Like, immediately, like triptans. There’s a “House” episode that almost adequately says that.

I’m currently out as a precaution for an injury, which is rapidly driving me nuts. This is a topic that I think people should research with disregard for the government’s opinion, which has been well proven to be unscientific, and authoritarian. There is no basis, IMO, for the USG’s scheduling of that drug, and we should be hostile toward their claims.

Extremely hostile. The DEA kills people over my opinion on this. Kills, like as in murders, by shooting them to death extrajudiciously. The degree to which taxpayers and murderees are snowed is a travesty. It disgusts me as a doorkicker. Truly disgusting. Its why I despise feds and hope they all choke on dicks as they die while being cowards.

None what so ever. Drug laws kill more people than the drugs themselves. You can’t have far more toxic drugs (booz and cigs) legal and expect anyone to take them seriously.

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A family member uses Spravado (Esketamine) for severe Depression with favorable results.

My nephew is having this treatment for depression and anxiety, it also is said to work on PTSD.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/21088-deep-brain-stimulation

Will, what are your thoughts on Ketamine Therapy? I know multiple people who have gone that route recently, and it seems to be increasing in popularity.

On our SAR team, we push Ketamine when needed during pre-hospital patient treatment, with good results, but it seems to be getting popular as a guided therapy for treatment of anxiety/depression etc. Similar effects/results to a psilocybin treatment? I know they are different, but both seem to produce a psychedelic trip. Pros/cons to either?

Here ya go: https://brinkzone.com/my-experience-with-ketamine-therapy/

I am a firm believer that two things that can change the world that we (the US) are holding back are Psychedelic treatments (by the DEA) and mesenchymal stem cells (FDA and big pharma).

Tim Ferriss has done a ton of work on Psychedelic treatments and if you are looking to go down a rabbit hole this may be a good place to start - https://tim.blog/2021/03/31/psychedelics-101/

Mesenchymal stem cells are cells pulled from umbilical cords - more info here https://www.cellmedicine.com/ but they are literally the fountain of youth and can solve so many issues we have. You can’t patent a biological so big pharma has been blocking it for years through lobbying of Congress and the FDA.

Wow, that sounds terrifying. One of the people i know who did Ketamine Therapy recently had some similar experiences, although not as dark, but same thoughts of being dead and convinced she was not coming back.
I personally don’t feel any need to experiment with any psychedelic substances, but seems like more and more people i know are trying this type of therapy, so it’s good to be familiar with some of the results. Thanks for the feedback.

It was a bad experience. Doc said he’d only had a few people have a truly negative experience but I felt docs and users should be aware of the possibility. Very few seem to have negative experiences with mushrooms under controlled environment.

Yeah… it’s ridiculous that pot and shrooms are Schedule I, especially when I can go tell the doc that my back hurts and they’ll give me legal heroin to my heart’s content.

If I’m honest with myself, I have PTSD from stuff at work. Plenty of singular episodes and just cumulative of 20 years and I know that medical marijuana and/or micro-dosing shrooms (also with a prescription) would likely help me tremendously. But alas, I worked so hard to get onto and remain on a unit that has a higher likelihood of being in a shooting that most LE jobs. Heaven forbid they pull my blood if I make it happen.

Our DA’s office put out a general warning a few years back when CBD was becoming all the rage telling us that it was not a good idea to take it as, being that it was not properly regulated, they could not be 100% certain there is no THC (which once again wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing) and we’d therefore possibly be in a bad way if we had to give a sample.

So I continue to suffer… not as bad as plenty of others… but definitely not having the time of my life either.

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Shawn Ryan discusses his experiences after a long list of guests from the SOF community told him how much they benefited from it. For those struggling with PTSD, depression, etc, well worth a view. He, like some others, also re discovered their faith after the experience, which is also noteworthy.

//youtu.be/asrnXJ-xCzs

I’m aware of persons involved in that series of events. There are people who get some seriously bad trips, which is something I wish were followed up on a bit more. However, across the board it is a solid experience that is highly recommended by the guys willing to talk about it. I had seriously thought about it at one point, but no longer feel I’m in the same place that I was back then.

Very few have a bad experience with Psilocybin, but some do with 5-MeO-DMT apparently. 5-MeO-DMT is the most intense of them but also very short lived. So far, all those willing to talk about it I have seen report a benefit, even of the experience itself was not great.

Sounds like we are hearing the same back channel info, which means more to me than the paperwork docs.

Looking forward to your thoughts and comments on the thread I just started regarding Ketamine Therapy.

Off topic but tangential and interesting:

"Psilocybin treatment extends cellular lifespan and improves survival of aged mice”

Aging volume 11, Article number: 55 (2025)

Abstract

Psilocybin, the naturally occurring psychedelic compound produced by hallucinogenic mushrooms, has received attention due to considerable clinical evidence for its therapeutic potential to treat various psychiatric and neurodegenerative indications. However, the underlying molecular mechanisms remain enigmatic, and few studies have explored its systemic impacts. We provide the first experimental evidence that psilocin (the active metabolite of psilocybin) treatment extends cellular lifespan and psilocybin treatment promotes increased longevity in aged mice, suggesting that psilocybin may be a potent geroprotective agent.

Introduction

To date, >150 clinical studies with psilocybin have been completed or are ongoing for various clinical indications, including psychiatric (anxiety, depression, addiction), neurodegenerative (Alzheimer’s), pain, and more1,2,3. Human studies have demonstrated that a single-dose of psilocybin can improve debilitating physical and psychological symptoms—with durable effects (up to ~5 years)4,5. Despite considerable clinical evidence supporting the therapeutic benefits of psilocybin, the molecular mechanisms responsible for these impacts remain enigmatic. Studies with psilocybin have predominantly focused on neurological impacts and/or behavioral outcomes; few studies have evaluated alternative or systemic mechanisms which may also contribute to its beneficial effects. The “psilocybin-telomere hypothesis”6 postulates that psilocybin interventions may quantifiably impact telomere length, which offers a potential explanation for its efficacy across a wide range of clinical indications. This hypothesis is based on a large corpus of studies linking mental health biological aging markers6. Accumulating evidence indicate that clinical depression accelerates aging and telomere shortening7,8,9. Positive mental psychological states are associated with longer telomeres, whereas negative psychological conditions (e.g. chronic stress, anxiety, and depression) are associated with telomere attrition7,10,11,12,13. Given the clinical evidence supporting the efficacy of psilocybin for these conditions, it is plausible that psilocybin may impact telomere length. However, no prior studies have experimentally investigated the direct impact of psilocybin on biological aging.

To evaluate the impact of psilocybin on cellular aging, we employed a validated model of replicative senescence using human fetal lung fibroblasts14. For all in vitro studies, we used psilocin (the active metabolite of psilocybin), which is formed when psilocybin is broken down after ingestion. Cells were serially passaged with media containing psilocin or vehicle until they reached replicative senescence. Psilocin treatment (10 μM) resulted in a 29% extension of cellular lifespan, characterized by delayed exhaustion of proliferative potential, increased cumulative population doublings, and decreased population doubling time, compared to vehicle (Fig. 1A–F). Results were more striking using a higher dose of psilocin in the same cell type (100 μM treatment led to a 57% extension in cellular lifespan; Supplementary Fig. 1A–F). Induction of senescence occurred in both vehicle and psilocin-treated cells, as both groups reached exhaustion of their proliferative potential (no evidence of oncogenic transformation was observed), however the onset of senescence was delayed in psilocin-treated cells (Fig. 1A). Further, compared to vehicle, psilocin-treated cells exhibited decreased βgal activity (Fig. 1G–H). These results were consistent with dose-dependent reductions in markers of cell cycle arrest (p21, p16), and increased markers of proliferation (PCNA) and DNA replication (pRB) (Fig. 1I). Compared to vehicle, psilocin treatment also led to elevated sirtuin1 (SIRT1; a critical role in regulating cellular aging, metabolism, and stress-responses) and decreased Growth Arrest and DNA Damage-inducible 45 alpha (GADD45a) levels, suggesting reduced DNA damage (Fig. 1I). Psilocin treatment also reduced oxidative stress levels in a dose-dependent manner (Fig. 1J), which was associated with decreased levels of NADPH oxidase-4 (Nox4, a master regulator of oxidant production) and increased nuclear factor erythroid 2-related factor 2 (Nrf2, a master regulator of antioxidant responses) (Fig. 1I). Overall, these results suggest that the in vitro impacts of psilocin are dose-dependent, with higher dosing ultimately leading to greater cellular life extension. To further validate these findings, we repeated these studies with a different cell type (adult human skin fibroblasts); 100 μM psilocin treatment increased cellular lifespan by 51%, which was accompanied by reduced senescence and decreased oxidative stress levels (Supplementary Fig. 2). To investigate other potential mechanisms by which psilocin contributes to increased lifespan, we also evaluated the impact on telomere length (reductions in telomere length is a hallmark of cellular aging). As expected, senescent vehicle-treated cells exhibited reduced telomere length compared to young control cells (Fig. 1K). In contrast, telomere length was preserved in psilocin-treated age-matched cells (Fig. 1K). In summary, these data suggest that psilocin impacts signaling pathways associated with cellular aging, which ultimately delayed the onset of senescence and increased cellular lifespan.

Full paper:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41514-025-00244-x

Important update:

Veterans With PTSD Experience ‘Striking’ Improvements From Psilocybin Treatments

Veterans with hard-to-treat PTSD have seen major improvements in their symptoms, thanks to a trial of a new psychedelic therapy treatment involving the drug psilocybin—a controlled substance and the main ingredient in magic mushrooms.

Researchers as part of a clinical trial treated 12 former soldiers suffering with PTSD using psilocybin and found that after a month of treatment, nine of the 12 veterans in the trial no longer met the criteria for PTSD, according to the pilot study published July 30 in Communications Medicine. The study was conducted by researchers at the Center for Psychedelic Drug Research and Education at Ohio State University.