Project Destructo

has this not been national news?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008651920_weapons21m0.html

A 65-year-old Spokane man has been ordered held in custody on federal charges of illegally possessing automatic weapons and illegally storing explosives in a Bellevue commercial storage shed while agents investigate how he came to possess a huge military-grade arsenal that included grenade launchers, machine guns and plastic explosives.

Ronald Struve, heavyset and bearded, appeared in Seattle before U.S. Magistrate Judge Mary Alice Theiler on Tuesday after being extradited from Spokane, where he was arrested Jan. 7 during a raid by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF).

In four searches in Bellevue and Spokane, agents seized 37 machine guns, 12 silencers, two grenade launchers, more than 60 high-explosive grenades, several pounds of military-grade C-4 plastic explosives and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

Most of this material was stored in commercial sheds near businesses and homes, said Assistant U. S. Attorney Thomas Woods.

At a detention hearing set for Friday, Woods said he will present evidence that Struve possessed “anti-government material.”

According to a complaint filed earlier this month, Struve “planned to use the items at some uncertain date in the future.”

Two law-enforcement sources familiar with the case, but who spoke on condition of anonymity, used the term “Armageddon” to describe what Struve was apparently awaiting in stockpiling the weapons.

Agents have served four search warrants — three in Spokane and another in Lynnwood.

The Lynnwood shed was empty; however, agents recovered eight machine guns and additional grenade rounds in a search on a storage shed in Spokane.

The search of the Bellevue storage shed did not require a warrant because agents were given permission by a man who purchased the contents at an auction.

ATF Special Agent Heidi Wallace said much of the recovered ordnance was almost certainly stolen from the military because there is no other place to get it.

Woods said the investigation is continuing and that a grand-jury indictment is possible. So far, agents have questioned at least two others — including a man who rented the shed in Bellevue. No other arrests have been made.

Wallace, who was at Struve’s court hearing Tuesday, said there was no evidence at this point that Struve was involved in domestic terrorism.

Struve first came to the ATF’s attention in November, when the man who had purchased the shed’s contents contacted the agency after he found it full of boxes of firearms, shells and other military-style hardware and wanted to know if the weapons were legal to keep.

The bureau sent Wallace to the buyer’s garage, where he had stacked the contents from the storage unit. What Wallace found were “many boxes, plastic bins and ammunition containers.”

The first box contained what appeared to be several machine guns. Likewise, the second box contained military-type firearms. In the third box, Wallace found “two grenades and other possible explosives.”

Other agents were called, and what they found was startling — and worrisome.

“In all my years, I’ve never seen this sort of firepower in one place,” said ATF Special Agent Nick Starcevic, the Seattle office’s senior operations officer.

One box contained 54 M406 high-explosive grenade rounds — 40-millimeter shells that can be launched from a shoulder-fired weapon to distances of 300 yards or more, according to military specification.

Its explosion creates a “kill radius” of up to 16 feet from the point of impact and injuries dozens of yards beyond that.

Agents also found several other anti-personnel grenades, including a Korean War-era “Chicom” stick grenade.

In another box, agents found six blocks of C-4 plastic explosives.

Agents counted 32 apparent machine guns, including M-14s, M-16s, and several “Sten guns,” a mass-produced submachine gun known for its high rate of fire — upward of 500 rounds per minute.

They also found nine silencers and the parts for several others, as well as thousands of rounds of ammunition and various other military hardware.

“All of the military explosive items seized are considered contraband and cannot be possessed by anyone other than the military,” Wallace wrote in a search warrant. “The majority of the items seized appeared to be stolen military explosive materials.”

Mike Carter: 206-464-3706 or mcarter@seattletimes.com

Copyright © 2009 The Seattle Times Company

Some supply pogue got rich selling him the stuff, no doubt.

How do you pencil-whip an inventory for that many weapons? Sheesh, I can remember an entire company getting dropped because somebody misplaced a stinking pop-up. :rolleyes:

…and he just up and abandoned this in a storage locker?

Just how much stupid did he put on his cornflakes for breakfast when he decided to do that?

Did he think the frag fairy was just gonna up and take it all away to Vallahalla in the middle of the night?

i’m trying to figure a couple things out-

how the hell do you not pay your storage bill when packed full of unregistered and probably stolen machineguns…? i would have done SOMETHING. it would certainly suck if this was the result of an accounting error with the storage company or something. “oooooohh, he DID pay his bill… mm, my bad.”

how do these auctions work?? surely people dont just place bids on un-opened and un-inventoried storage units? did this guy not know he was buying a bunch of felonies?

call me the Tinfoil Man, but this story seems fishy.

twice my bad…

Yup, they do.
Happens all the time.
I’ve know a couple of people that have bought storage places and found stuff.
Not good stuff like this one, but…

edited after buckshot1220’s post
edit: bought the contents of specific units, not the whole facility

I’ve been to these auctions before, and lots of times you can get great deals. The catch is they cut the locks off as the bidding starts and open the door. All you can do is walk to where the door would be if it were closed and “peer” in. You can’t rummage through anything. So I’d assume the shed had other, more legal, contents that blocked viewing the not so legitimate stuff.

glad we got that cleared up. whats it take to get into someone’s forclosed unit? couple hundred bucks?

Sometimes less than that from what I hear. I’ve known of people buying the contents of storage units at auction for $100-150 tops, and making back their money several times over from just a few items.

It varies greatly depending on what is visible and how many people show up to bid. I’ve seen them go as low as $40 on up to $1,000+. Usually I look for tools, toolboxes, ATV’s, snowmobiles and classic car parts. My buddy got a tool box current year production (at the time) loaded with tools, the box retailed for a little over $2,000, he got the entire shed for $500 if I remember right.

In some states you can view the contents of the unit with the door open, but you are not allowed to go inside and there is no list of contents. In some places the units are sealed and bid accordingly.

My sister used to buy units like this and a friend of hers did the same. They found one with a 1940’s era Harley Davidson fully restored under a tarp in the back. She paid 500.00 dollars for the whole unit.

SCORE!
So, do you know how much they made selling the Harley?

Her husband kept it. I think he rides it on the weekends. But, they also found a coin jar with several hundred dollars in change, and some antique furniture and stuff. All in all they made really decent cash off the deal. I may actually look into this when I go home at the end of the year.

Damn, I’ve got to find another FFL to do my transfers! :frowning:

While it is slightly disturbing that somewhere .gov/.mil people are selling off this stuff to whoever has the cash to buy, I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised. What really gets me is that a guy who has enough $$$ to buy/accumulate all this hardware can’t afford/remember to pay his storage unit bill where all his illegal goodies are stashed!:smiley: Somebody give this guy the window-licker of the year award.

I personally love the part of the story where they quote the U.S. Attorney as saying he will present evidence that Struve possessed “anti-government” material. WTF is anti-government material? Are we talking tin-foil hat crowd/conspiracy theorist literature or does he mean a Bible and a copy of the U.S. Constitution?:rolleyes: Either one could be considered “anti-government” material by certain parties.

I also love the part where the reporter hypes the deadly Sten submachine guns. “Known for their high rate of fire – upwards of 500 rds per minute.” Maybe the reporter should have mentioned the less than stellar accuracy of said Sten guns, due to their firing from an open bolt! WTF good is 500 rpm if you can’t hit anything with it. Journalism like this makes me wonder if most reporters even know which end of the weapon the bullets come out of…

The guy that won the auction should have kept his mouth shut!

As I was reading the article, I was like…damn, that could have been a REAL good day at the range and then some:D

In a fair and just world, 37 machine guns, 12 silencers would equal $9800 in tax stamps and the new owner could enjoy the products. Fun to think about.

actually, at least in Utah, you do. My folks and I shared a storage unit for several years after we moved to Utah. I became good friends with the older couple that managed the place. One day while there (either paying the bill or helping them with a computer problem), I asked how the auctions ran.

They run a public notice that an auction will take place. At the appointed time, the door is opened but no one is allowed to enter or touch anything. You can only look from outside in. They are usually dark and deep so lots of stuff can be hidden in there you don’t know about.

The storage people have not done an inventory or touched the stuff either.

There are probably details I don’t remember but that was the gist of it

Chad

I have seen many of these auctions. Sale prices I’ve seen range from $1 to $15000. Yes, you cannot go through the stuff prior to bidding and for every Harley or Gold bar story of success there are 500+ purchases of mostly garage sale junk that will barely pay the auction price. There are many people that do this for a living. Most have 2nd hand stores where they can sell or many also use ebay. Only rarely is something of significant value seen before the bidding starts and then the bids will shoot up rapidly. All sale have to be closed in cash at time of sale and removed from the premises within 48Hours. Not a fun thing to witness. The only person that really wins is the auctioneer because he gets 25% plus a set fee, usually $50, of the bid price off the top. It is considered a losing situation by Storage people and the folks losing their stuff. I have seen some people bid and buy their own stuff at a significantly lower price than was owed though. Something must have really gone wrong with this guy to make him miss
2+ months of payments. :confused: