It should be interesting to see what price they come in at, as supposedly ATI could not reach an agreement on what they felt was reasonable for round 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZwQAZBOAN4
I’m sure if they try to stand up US production, they will **** it up.
Also, I’m sure that IF there is ever another round of imports from HK they will be in some distasteful configuration.
I missed out on the first batch. I’m glad they are coming back in but I’m not really interested US manufactured stuff. Doesn’t MKE also manufacture the 416? Could this be a way to get more HK designed goodies if HK used that partnership to circumvent some of the german laws?
Yes, they do make a 416-ish rifle, not sure where the differences come from…
I wonder how HK feels about one of their licensed factories… licensing a factory though…
Not sure what the differences are in the two guns. I know that Germany has some complicated laws about exporting small arms designs. I wonder if it is easier to export designs to an existing licensed factory. Maybe that could help in getting designs such as the MP7 to US shores.
I’ve heard a lot about why we can’t get US/German manufactured 416 uppers and most of the info seems to point towards german laws. Not sure if its that or HK’s USA lack of interest?
I wouldn’t mind hearing more about that 416 above, is just a shitty licensed gun or the real deal just made by MKE?
Well… it is a licensed gun, manufactured by MKE.
Did you mean shitty clone gun?
Yes I mean is built to the same exact specs as a hk 416?
Ummmm… No, because it’s a half a pound heavier, longer, and… anyway, if you watched the video you would know that we’re talking about a possible 3rd round of importation on the classic HK 9X series guns- including a 93-type that doesn’t have the stupid top push pin, if I’m seeing that correctly.
No i watched the video, I know the history of MKE importing hk94 like guns, I was just curious about their 416. I personally think the MP5 design is outdated for modern mil/police use with better options out there. I think pistol caliber subguns are pretty much the way of the dodo due to weapons like the MK18 and MP7 which easily fill the roles of the mp5. Still neat guns though.
WOW. Interesting.
Do you know if Turkish forces have adopted the MKE version of the 416?
Have any other military/security forces of any other nation?
Or is it just being idly displayed in the glass gun counter of the world arms market?
I can find no pictures of them in the field, but anyway… it’s irrelevant because they are not being imported.
I would like to see a new round of 94 series, but I don’t think they will be $1200 this time around.
Given that I passed on the German semi auto 416 (MR556) I don’t think a Turkish copy, assuming they were actually imported, would be any more interesting.
I am glad I grabbed a T94 and T94K however. If they managed to bring in a 5.56 pistol version of some kind and the price is right I’d grab one of those as well.
The reason why people do not like the MR556 is that it has a super thick “target” barrel that is not chromed lined. Like most I want a Millitary barrel in a civilian 416 for me want to buy it. MKE might be able to produce and import a better civilian 416 as they would not have the restrictions of HK has on selling "military " arms to the public.
What they need to import are MP5s that have a normal 3 lug barrel and a standard HK33 with threaded barrel. Both in pistol format.
Anything other than this will be a failure.
I had no trouble at all getting a “correct” cut, crown and three lug done to my 94P.
I’m with ya on the 33 though, even better would be a 33k pistol.
Yeah, that’s a pretty easy kill.
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My MKE AT-94P has been flawless for thousands of rounds in all conditions.
I just paid a good premium (over the old distributor price) to add a 94K so I could have a pair of MKEs like SteyrAUG… if a third round comes in cheap I won’t feel dumb, I will only be please to see more MP5 types out there.
The old MP5 design can easily give the MPX and Scorpion EVO a run for their money, IMO.
I would also be very interested in a 94 or 33 pistol.
Who did that work for you?
My understanding is that these rifles are in fact licensed from HK.
Turkey licenses all kinds of weapon systems that they then produce in their own factories. They make their own F-16s, for example.
I believe Curtis Higgins @ S&H did both of ours.
