"Pope Says" (the daily hypocrisy)

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Says the guy protected by mercenaries and weapons made in Switzerland. The church directly complicit with the Nazis in WWII and they did bomb the tracks. I’m not religious pe se, but I’m unaware that simply producing weapons defacto makes one a bad Christian. It seems Christianity clear on defensive violence and self protection. Personally, I’d be much more impressed with the Pope if he spent his efforts and time focused on cleaning up his own house before passing judgements on others, but that’s me. Your mileage may differ.

Pope says weapons manufacturers can’t call themselves Christian

TURIN, Italy (Reuters) - People who manufacture weapons or invest in weapons industries are hypocrites if they call themselves Christian, Pope Francis said on Sunday.

Francis issued his toughest condemnation to date of the weapons industry at a rally of thousands of young people at the end of the first day of his trip to the Italian city of Turin.

“If you trust only men you have lost,” he told the young people in a long, rambling talk about war, trust and politics after putting aside his prepared address.

“It makes me think of … people, managers, businessmen who call themselves Christian and they manufacture weapons. That leads to a bit a distrust, doesn’t it?” he said to applause.

He also criticized those who invest in weapons industries, saying “duplicity is the currency of today … they say one thing and do another.”

Francis also built on comments he has made in the past about events during the first and second world wars.

He spoke of the “tragedy of the Shoah,” using the Hebrew term for the Holocaust.

“The great powers had the pictures of the railway lines that brought the trains to the concentration camps like Auschwitz to kill Jews, Christians, homosexuals, everybody. Why didn’t they bomb (the railway lines)?”

Discussing World War One, he spoke of “the great tragedy of Armenia” but did not use the word “genocide”.

Francis sparked a diplomatic row in April calling the massacre of up to 1.5 million Armenians 100 years ago “the first genocide of the 20th century,” prompting Turkey to recall its ambassador to the Vatican.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/pope-says-weapons-manufacturers-cant-call-themselves-christian-184139430.html

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The ONLY reason the media is making a big deal out of what THIS Pope says is because his views are more in line with leftist big media than many previous Popes.

Some might be too young to remember earlier Popes that stuck very close to Catholic doctrine and blasted gays, divorce, abortion and other things that went against traditional Catholic teachings. Pope John Paul II would have NEVER been welcomed with such attention as Pope Francis has seen. No way…no how.

In fact, in the past when a Pope traveled to America, big media often did subtle hit pieces on the Papacy and commented on how “out of touch” his views were with our modern society. Many newspaper opinion pieces went on and on about how the Papacy might not be very relevant to today’s Catholics.

This Pope is getting the play he is getting because he has been spouting on about things the left loves - income redistribution, gay marriage, climate change and so forth.

He is…basically…one of them.

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Don’t confuse the Catholic Church and religion with Christianity. This Pope is all over the place with regard to interpretation and doctrine.

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A lot of Christians don’t consider Catholics as true Christians. There’s a lot of stuff in The Catholic religion that was made up by the Romans. The fact that they think the Pope is infallible is pretty ridiculous. That goes back to when the Pope was essentially in charge of the Roman Empire. I grew up Catholic and didn’t agree with a lot of their interpretations on things.

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He also says we should show “compassion” on immigration. With that, inquiring minds want to know how many Syrian immigrants the Vatican is taking in…

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Petrus Romanus.

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Just another cog in the wheel of the Progressives.
What is sauce for the Goose is Sauce for the Gander, I really don’t want to hear any thing else he has to say until a guy named Mohamed is sharing his personal apartment.
BTW was his English Teacher Father Guido Sarducci? I keep expecting him to tell us all about “Breakfast in Heaven.”

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Utterly indifferent to the Marxist blatherings of this particular pope.

Watching Obama virtually piss himself in fawning admiration told me all I need to know.

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A few months ago, I started a thread calling for a boycott of the Catholic Church and its affiliated institutions in response to this Pope’s anti-American statements. I made my case based on his calls for forced redistribution of wealth, open borders, and his global warming extremism. Well, we can now add his stance on weapons to what is a growing list of affronts to liberty - funny how they all fit into a Marxist agenda, eh?

People who still support the Catholic Church despite this fool of a Pope need to ask themselves a very easy question. What is the net effect on humanity if we actuality implemented his positions. What would happen to the world’s poor if we eliminated fossil fuels, turned off air conditioning, and opened the borders in Europe and the US?

I’ll tell you what would happen. The loss of life and human suffering would be staggering. There is simply no escaping that fact that the practical result of his proclamations being instituted would be evil on a level not seen since WWII.

So, next time you plan to write a check to charity, visit a hospital, or send your kids to a private school, I suggest that you look beyond the Catholic Church. There are far better institution, both religious and secular, that could use you help.

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That, and since the pope is all for wealth redistribution, When’s he going to start handing over the untold billions the Vatican has?

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We don’t listen to Obama when it comes to economic issues, because he has never run a business or held a real job. Why should we listen to the Pop on the same subjects?

Pope Francis, you stick to telling us about Jesus and WE will handle the climate and wealth…m-kay?

There is noting worse that being lectured to on a subject, by someone who has no experience with it and little knowledge about said subject.

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Hence the word “hypocrisy” in the OP. Be it this Pope or past, the “do as we say not as we do” positions and statements make anything said of no value to me. This Pope just seems more “progressive” than past versions making his hypocrisy all the more evident for me. Supposedly, he’s done a better job of than prior Popes of addressing abuse of children and cover ups of it and booted some people, etc. If true, credit where it’s due, but it’s not even a fraction of the internal problems, hypocrisy, and contradictions within that should be the focus.

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So in review this pope tells the US via Congress to abolish Capital Punishment yet says nothing about abortion? Blames us rich Americans for global warming yet how many hydro carbons did his luxury airliner expel in a holding pattern of NC while giving Barry and his hag time enough to get to Andrews?

This guy can get bent.

And where in the hell are all the militant leftist atheist screaming separation of church and state of the popes address to the US Congress?!

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But I don’t believe in the pope so this doesn’t apply to me

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It saddens me that this far along in our evolution of civilization, we are still listening to a Pope and giving a shit about anything he says.

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Good point. Basing important societal concepts on institutionalized superstition is something that one might have thought we’d outgrow once we realized that, for example, the earth revolved around the sun.

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It really needs to become something like the British Monarchy where it is purely symbolic and people don’t live their lives according to every word and judge them as they would the opinions of Prince Charles, Elvis or Jerry Falwell.

Collect money if they can, do good work if they will, but can we please stop pretending they are a BFF to the supernatural.

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Actually, I see the Pope (and the church) as being very similar to the British monarchy. Neither has any meaningful governing power; both are simply there to tell people how they should think and act. It is purely choice if one wishes to follow those suggestions. Granted, the Pope’s coercive effect is far greater than a monarchy with this notion of eternal damnation. I’m just here to point out that the net result of this Pope’s proclamations is evil.

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I understand that the Pope doesn’t have the same power as 400 years ago, but he still gets way more press when he says something in comparison to say Prince Charles.

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What I hate is that all the whiny bastards that don’t stand up to this Progressive crap.

The Catholic church and weighing in on science matters is to arguments what the NAZIs are to internet discussion- the end of the argument and summary decision. How anyone with a straight face can’t shoot this down is beyond me.

Why is it that Progressives look at problems and only see the end product and how someone else should fix it. The refugee crisis in the EU and the de-population of Latin America are great examples. Why is the solution trying to put a finger in the dyke and hadn out free shit when the real problem is that LA is a economic wasteland and radical Islam are bastards. Resettlement and refugees aren’t solutions, they are the end effect of failed economic and military policies. Here’s an education for LA and here’s a rifle for the ME and back you go! With LA, the solution seems to be to emulate the economies that these people are fleeing and do that here. You can’t talk about free immigration and income inequality- that is F-ing insane. You can’t import poor people and then complain about too many poor people.

And lastly, if America is so bad, why does everyone come here? I’m tired of being the public bathroom of the world that everyone thinks they have a right to use, shit all over the place and then complain about how bad things are- or worse be happy that it is half a shit sandwhich better than where they are from and won’t help keep the place up.

JPII was the last pope, and is going to Pope slap the shit out of Francis when he gets called back to the head office.