Just got done posting on Facebook about the NRA’s response to the shooting. The responses I saw from the anti gunners are nuts. They think that putting armed cops or sercurity in the schools will make things worse. It sickens me that people have gotten so sheeply and cowardly that they think you can’t fight back and that simply banning weapons is the answer. People need to grow a spine. If people are this wimpy and afraid of fighting back then our country has already fallen.
Pat
My MIL said she would rather be killed by an attacker than use a gun and take their life.
Some people are just born victims, and want everyone else to be the same way. :rolleyes:
We’ve had armed police officers in our schools down here for years, it seems funny for people to be complaining about it elsewhere. I just saw a blip on a Chicago area station (How I Met Your Mother re-runs are one of my few vices…) where someone in the upper echelons of their school system commented on it. He basically said that he would love to have better security, but there were other things he needed to spend his budget on. So much for Biden’s ‘…even if it saves only one life.’ It must have been followed by a very low mumbling of ‘…and doesn’t cost too much.’
I’ve met people like that. If there was actually divine justice in the world somebody on a train headed for Poland in 1944, praying for just a chance to “fight to save themselves or someone they love” would magically become your mother in law and your mother in law would find herself on a train.
What these people don’t seem to understand is a world without firearms is not a good place. You would have more of the strong oppressing the weak. Right now if I am unarmed and 2 guys attack me on the street I am probably not going to win that fight. I will do my best to hurt them as much as possible but its most likely going to be a lose. There are large and strong men would could kill me when I am unarmed despite my best efforts. However with a gun I have a lot better odds of winning even against multiple armed attackers. Being armed puts more emphaiss on your skills than it does on your physical attributes of size and strength. Listening to the news last night on NPR. (I know liberal station) I heard a story about some women and children being attacked by men in africa with machetties. I could not help but thinking if the victims had a firearm this would not have ended the same way.
Like I said I don’t want to live in a world free of guns.
Pat
My MIL has a CCW. 
I have met people like that as well, but just from the context of how they (most of them) go about their lives, I’m pretty sure they’d do whatever it took to save their own skin.
Far too many are obviously wrong to think that trained, qualified armed personnel would further endanger children if they protected our schools. But many more of us want to see our fellow citizens try just a little harder and care just a little more before we accept this as a now perceived normal standard.
Left and right need to stop screwing around with their idealogical limits and start adhering to common sense. A small example would be FOX pulling that piece of crap McFarland’s anti-Christmas slop off the Sunday line up after the killings. Both Family Guy and the one after (whatever it is) had the new episodes substituted with a re-run according to an article I read.
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Pat
I had a pro-gun acquaintance of mine convinced that we should ban “high” capacity mags. Because he is from California, he wanted to limit mag capacity to 9 rounds…(WTF!). In fact, a disturbing trend I’m seeing is that many RKBA/2A proponents are wanting to give up standard capacity mags because they see it as a problem.
His reasoning is that: “If someone is licensed with a conceal and carry permit and has a weapon on them to possibly confront a murderer such as this then magazine size means everything. A pistol small enough to conceal reasonably on one’s person is likely going to have 6-7 rounds in it at the most (maybe a few more if you aren’t carrying it on your person and in something else). That person has a much better chance of stopping the assailant if the shooter has a smaller magazine and has to stop and change out a magazine at some point, even if he has several weapons. A 3-5 second change out by the shooter is all a person trained to carry a concealed weapon would need to stop a mass murder from having a higher casualty count. 30 round clips are absurd and give someone bent on mass murder a distinct advantage over the law abiding citizen with a carry and conceal license (or an armed security guard, off duty cop, etc.).”
I pointed out that it doesn’t matter what a person with CCW has because the majority of these murders are taking place in “Gun Free” zones along with all the other obvious arguments. At the end of it all, you really can’t fix stupid, so I stopped trying.
LOL WOW. I just asked my friend (gang member) what he thought of your friends logic and he asked for his address.
I am not surprised by the responses here. Anyone with real firearms knowledge knows that you could have 3 round mags and still rack up a body count until someone shows up to stop you.
Well so long as he disagrees we’re all set.
Good post Pat and I agree. It is sickening. More so, many of the members of this forum have either given up and ‘accepted’ a ban and beginning to work out what they will carry if the .gov even lets them keep theirs, or if they do have to go to 10 rounds, what will they go to. Many seem unable to focus on the fight at hand.
I am actually more troubled by what I’ve seen posted here in the last several days than anything I’ve seen in MSLSD, Faux News, Communist News Network, or the other media outlets.
It reminds me of the men who went weeping to hand over their guns to the .gov in the NRA films of UK and Aussie gun turn ins. I’ve refrained from posting as long as I could, but this has been a real wake up call for me. For many this is really just not that important and something they only care about if the powers that be permit it.
Yeah, it’s a real problem with a LOT of people. They have a reality they live in. It’s not a true reality because they assume for instance that criminals will somehow be abiding by the law as they commit a crime…
It’s the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. I’m not sure what’s wrong with them. It’s some inability to see true reality when presented with basic facts a child could understand. Seems their brains are in arrested development with regards to good and evil and the people they share the earth with. It’s really frustrating because you feel like if you could just get through to them they would go “OHHHHH!!! what was I thinking!!” But they never do.
Seems like a lot of the idiocy is breeding in California. Some of them are just bitter they are restricted more than the rest of us and want us to suffer too. Screw that.
Scary isn’t it?
Firearms are allowed in my kid’s public elementary school as long as you have a concealed carry permit. I carry there all the time and I know that at least the principal carries. I am happy with that scenario and I feel that my kids are a little safer there. Nothing can stop a determined crazy person, but it can sure limit the damage he can do before being taken down.
Surprisingly, we have had no firearms just start shooting at people in our schools so it leads me to the conclusion that it might actually be about the person and not the gun.
Michael Savage referred to liberalism as a ‘mental disorder’ and after the events of the last week, I have to agree.
Like million dollar football stadiums and basketball gymnasiums.
Absolutely. I made the point to say if we did limit mag capacity to 10 rounds, then what happens the next time a mass shooting occurs in a “gun free zone” and the shooter brings in 20 10 round magazines? Will the next ban call to further limit mag capacity, or limit the number of mags you’re allowed to own? It just gets more and more stupid… So I quit before I got too irritated.