Then it will be just like California.
Unilateral secession violates the Constitution AFAIK. I don’t see even the remotest possibility that the US would allow any individual state to secede.
I would say they do. Our Military and Law Enforcement are made up of citizens, after all.
What is the federal government doing to prevent this right now?
Let them leave. Ring Texas with all of the same border controls and ports of entry that we have on our northern and southern borders. Make flying into and out of Texas the same as going to any other international destination, requiring a Passport and in some cases a visa. Fuck them, no free trade with Texas, make them trade just like Uruguay or Honduras, all of their containers can sit in customs bond in AZ, NM, and OK before being allowed to pass into the U.S. Remove all USG facilities and the jobs they generate from Texas. I’m sure NASA and the Navy have adequate excess facilities in FL, that can absorb what is currently going on in Texas. The current international trade moving through Texas can easily be displaced to other ports, highways, railheads. Who is Texas going to trade with? Mexico? France? Sure that’s gonna work. Texas will just revert to being Mexico’s northernmost province.
Texas has already been invaded by Mexico.
Can we leave NOW?
…please?
Seriously…we will not miss most of you.
We have oil refineries, ports, agriculture, medical centers, tech industries and tons of natural resources.
If the rest of you want to be led by Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Boxer, Durbin and turds like this…I say we let you have it.
See you around…hope you make it.
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If you want to. Good luck dealing with Al Qaeda fueled cartels. Not just dealing with money motivated drug dealers/smugglers, but also zealots who can’t be bought or reasoned with at the same time. That should be fun for you.
Not that I’m a fan if the whole secession thing, but just where do you suppose you’re going to make for the lost refining capacity. Price of gas goes through the roof when 1 refinery goes down. What do you suppose would happen when 20 go off line? The arrogance on both sides of the equation is immense. Like it or not we are joined at the hip and would run into some serious hard times if we tried to tear ourselves apart.
There is no way in hell a peaceful secession is going to happen, not to TX, not to BFE. We tried it once and got a lot of people dead. Don’t want to see that happen again. Sorry, but we are stuck with one another till the whole thing comes unglued.
really? thats a not shit sherlock comment. I’m more entertained by the prospect of what the administration will do. I’m guessing just ignore it since it wasn’t from the state legislator and just some random ass citizen.
Including Texas, there are 23 state petitions requesting the same. In under three days, Texas already has over 25,000 signatures.
Without Texas…America is a 3rd world nation within 5 years.
The jobs and what is left of American prosperity is to be found here…not on either coast.
-brickboy240
Nobody’s going anywhere. Let them have their secession fantasy. It’s not hurting anyone.
Yup, the Bakken hasn’t done anything for jobs. :rolleyes:
Texas coastal facilities along with their refining ability (approx 30 refineries) will always make them viable, but they aren’t the only game in town.
Hell, lets just cut the middle of the country out and leave the fluffy edges to destroy themselves.
Texas has a state guard. Texans would no longer be eligible for the US military, I’m sure a Texas Military would be formed. And of all the borders to cross with an invading army…Texas? There’s more than one gun per citizen, they have an industrial capacity to arm themselves, and think of all the soldiers and veterans living in Texas…They have the economic capacity to raise an impressive military for a nation (if they seceded) of their size.
Bingo.
fantasy it is. Do they really think all those multinational companies operating there are going to stay there? No, the Texas provisional government would have to nationalize those refineries, then have to establish trade agreements, etc. Providing for the collective defense and welfare is expensive when you are footing the bill all by yourselves, Texas taxes would look positively Northern European. Especially with a northern trade embargo, I think the mood in the remaining union states would be to treat them like Cuba. Do they think buying a couple of dozen used French Mirage fighters for their fledgling air force is going to be cheap to buy and maintain? A standing army to guard their southern border? I think more “Texans” would vote with their feet and leave to remain Americans than would ever be “Free Texans”.
This will be laughed at as sour grapes after the election.
On what grounds, though? The states formed the federal government, why are they permanently bound to it? It’s a contract. There is no clause saying that any given state can’t leave.
All of that equipment is the property of the Federal Government, not Texas. In addition, those guardsman are paid for by the federal government, that is a large outlay to replace and fund locally.
Industrial capacity is linked to the ability to trade. If your neighbors won’t buy from you, or impose tariffs on your goods, your goods are not competitive.
What I most appreciate about these secession threads, is how they provoke the statists out into the open…
and Now we turn on each other:mad: Here on M4C who would have thought that .Divide the people and the rest will follow .At this day and age why not rise Together? Because of the BS instead of it tearing us apart .and i thought the election was bad :rolleyes: