Participate in Magpul courses if I come from outside USA

[brickbd]

Oh Boy, the Urban Prone has now left state side!

[josuebe]

hahahaha yeap!

[joffe]

@Von_Rheydt

Did you order thru the US Mil APO system or thu the normal “I’m a civvy” postal system?

I can tell you its damn frustrating spending time and phone bills trying to put money in peoples pockets to get them to send stuff to Europe. Back then the guys that wanted the DVD’s got them eventually but they had to get someone to pick them up when they were on a course Stateside.

OK, so now it comes out they were not under Itar. But, on the end of an email or phone what are you going to do if you are told point blank “No” even when you offer credentials and paperwork.

You’ve got to understand. In Euro-land if you want asomething that is made or marketed by a US company you have to pay severely inflated European costs. I hear yawns, but understand when you pay $200 for something here in the USA they pay $400 for the same thing in Euro-land. The natural thing is to try and get items at a cheaper price. In the main these guys are soldiers buying stuff out of their own money…we all know military pay sucks.

On a lighter note, I passed over a set of the DVD’s to one of the UK Squadrons as a christmas present last year. I was told they liked them.

Hello,

I am a European civilian with no American citizenship or residency status - yes, I ordered it normally via their website to my home address. I do know about the inflated costs, I’ve lived here since I was born:p, which is why I always try to order directly from the US.

If there’s a shop that won’t send to Europe, I’ll either suck it up and skip that item or find a different store that will. I won’t fight with people to be allowed to give them my money.:no: That’s not regarding ‘ITAR items’ (which I’ve never attempted to order, pointless and illegal), that’s just generally anything. There are some that won’t send to Europe for one reason or the other, and others that’ll ship it right away without a hitch. I know which ones get skipped and which ones get my money again and again…

[igoswoop]

Well, it goes both ways apparently…

Took me six months to get the two spearguns I wanted from an Italian company (OMER).

[Narco]

@Benjamin_Martin

I believe they do a background check on attendees, good question though curious to see the answer as even their DVD’s of training classes are not allowed outside the US market.

:rolleyes:

[Tom_Swift]

@Iraqgunz

Many weapons parts, accesories and optics do indeed fall under ITAR. It is a very murky field and having dealt with it personally I can tell you it is a major headache.

Pretty much everything firearm related falls under ITAR these days. Canadians have to deal with this headache all the time. I live just over an hour from the border I’d love to pick up a bunch of PMAGS rivet them (5 Round Mag Capacity on Semi Auto Centerfire Rifles) and bring them back over but instead that’s impossible with out breaking several US Federal Laws. Because riveted PMAGS here go for around $35 each and LR PMAGS for $60 and up.

Brownells is a registered exporter and can ship other companies who are registered for export parts as long as they are not main parts i.e. frame out of the country provided the order of goods is under $100.00USD

It would really be nice if more US Companies especially those registered to export would do so themselves taking advantage of the $100 exemption.

I’d love to get LaRue mounts straight from LaRue instead of get charged 70-80% mark up on everything.

But trying to stay on topic, I as a Canadian would like to take a Magpul course or two. Just gotta find one that will be close enough to the border within the next couple of years.

[bigc3031]

DVDs are regionally coded, a North Amercian region 1 DVD will not play in any other region’s player unless it is a “region free” or modified player. My guess is this may be why you only see the MD DVDs in North America.

Mearly a guess.

[CarlosDJackal]

@Reseremb

Travis said that DVDs are not under ITAR norms, but that doesn’t mean that Magpul process orders from outside US…

What exactly does this mean? As far as I know anything related to firearms and associated TTPs fall under ITAR.

This does not mean it cannot be exported or sold overseas. It just means that it can only be done once it has gone through the process of obtaining such an approval and via approved exporters of such products.

[josuebe]

lol Hope we find a solution to this. It´s a shame… But you have still more options than me (in spain). here, we have not a damn thing about good tactical shooping web´s. We are in Europe as well, but I think it could be essier from UK ?? I don´t know… I´m still thinking that the best chance is going to USA and spend theren a entire day shooping. More economical than from Europe, for sure…

[Rush]

So we’ve established that Magpul DVD’s can be sold outside the USA (Magpul has an entire division in Hong Kong for airsoft, and they also sell the DVD’s.)

There are some European stores I’ve seen that sell Magpul items, so that can happen too.

And he wouldn’t be coming here as official military, but rather as a civilian who wants to take a class, right?