Our Gov't keeping us safe....

Odds are that if it’s an open active investigation, they’ll redact any important information. They might even redact how they did it (if they actually did) because there are already a bunch of these in country and they don’t want to provide instuctions on how to do it.

I’d be fine with that so long as they allow independent testing that confirms their results. I’m still highly doubtful that they can actually be converted and fire without being damaged or destroyed. I’m willing to eat my words if they can though.

I like the part about it being “easily converted to military grade weapons”. We have many companies that manufacture real guns that cant seen to make it military grade. Do you suppose that the process the ATF moron was talking about is how Oly makes their guns:D;)?

I really hope the ATF will be held accountable for their statements.

And damn, if its that easy to to make a toy gun fire bullets I could have saved a shit load of money.

on it.

Is there a fee?

Excellent.

its called tyranny. jmann, they will not be held accountable. in any way. any accountability at waco, for anyone?

negative… just write up a neat little letter and mail to:

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Disclosure Division
Averill P. Graham (Division Chief)
99 New York Avenue, NE, Room 1E-400
Washington, DC 20226 USA

and you can generate a great letter at: http://www.rcfp.org/foialetter/index.php

oops… looks like there may, in fact, be some fees… still putting it all together, will update.

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indeed… and from what i’ve gathered, they wont even accept the FOIA request as “complete” unless the letter includes a statement of willingness to pay a fee.

here’s what i’ll be mailing with the morning tide:

Benjamin XXXXXXXXX
XXX XXXXX XXXX Street
XXXXX XXXXXX, Oregon XXXXX
XXX-XXX-XXXX

March 5, 2010

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Disclosure Division
Averill P. Graham (Division Chief)
99 New York Avenue, NE, Room 1E-400
Washington, DC 20226 USA

 FOIA REQUEST

Dear FOIA Officer:

Pursuant to the federal Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. § 552, I request access to and copies of all non-exempt documents, videos, testing data, etc., relating to the seizure of 30 “airsoft” rifles arriving in Tacoma, WA from Taiwan via ship-born cargo container in the month of October 2009, and subsequent evaluation by the BATF and declaration that these devices fall under the category of “machinegun” according to BATF interpretation of NFA regulations.

I would like to receive the information in the following format: All available.

I agree to pay reasonable duplication fees for the processing of this request in an amount not to exceed $50.00. However, please notify me prior to your incurring any expenses in excess of that amount.

I look forward to your reply within 20 business days, as the statute requires.

Thank you for your assistance.

Sincerely,

Benjamin XXXXXXXXX

Let us know when you get a response.

from another thread here:

“The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives did not provide gun-seizure information from its Fort Wayne office despite Freedom of Information requests made by The News-Sentinel in June 2008 and last month.”

http://www.news-sentinel.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090511/NEWS/905110328

Kinda reminds me of when the ATF was under the control of Bill Clinton and Janet reno.:rolleyes:

Excellent work bkb0000, let us know what you find out.