Besides the fact the muzzle device/contour is $120, the fact the suppressor itself is $450, the great things I’ve heard about reliability, the fact ADCO is 1 hour north of me, the fact that OPS and ADCO are very easy to work with, and that a similar package from AAC would run me around $1,230 ($180 mount + $1050)? Gee…no idea
Seriously though…I don’t expect the M4-M to suppress ‘as good as’ the M42000, but I’m paying 57% less for the OPS can. Or I could get the mini, which I’m guessing is probably on the same suppression level as the M4-M, but is still almost twice as much. The mounting with the AAC is quicker I suppose but this will be run suppressed 80-90% of the time so mounting and shift really aren’t a factor in my decision.
Yeah it’ll be run hard. This will be, God willing, part of the setup I take to training/classes. I’ve thought about the 1000…dealers around here have them for $625 or so. But it’s 1.7" longer and 2.7oz heavier than the M4-M and and still more $ so I didn’t see the advantage.
Popping my cherry on suppressors right now so if there’s something I’m missing, I’d love to hear it. Although it may sound like it, my mind’s not made up…but considering the price and size of the M, I can’t see spending $2-500 more on something bigger/heavier.
I usually subscribe to that, and the “too good to be true…it usually is” adage. Try as I might, can’t find a negative review about them though. I wonder if not advertising really saves them enough to where their prices are this low?
I looked at AACs lineup first…but I’m a cheap bastard
I would venture to say that all popular silencer manufactures make decent products. As for rifle cans I only have ones from Ops Inc. I started out with the 15th years ago and sort of just went crazy collecting the others. I’m just an average joe and don’t really need silencers…I just really like them. My next can will either be an M4-2000 or the AAC mini4. I know some of the other manufactures make some good stuff but for me I really just like the ones that are a little more compact and have the least amount of weight. I’m know Surefire makes a great product but damn their stuff is expensive.
My only experience with OPS-INC is the 12th model on an SPR. The can is very nice in that application, but was big and heavy.
I too have been looking at the M4-M model (as well as the M4-1000) as most of my shooting these days is done indoors and cutting the blast down on my 14.5" Carbine would be a very nice thing. About the only drawback I can see is that I would not be able to mount the can on my 10.5" MK18, however I really have little desire to run a can to death on such a short barrel.
Does Smith still make the Vortex OPS-INC adapter? I always though one of those on an M4 barrel would be pretty neat.
The M4-M is probably in the db reduction area that the Mini4 is in but I guess we won’t really know for sure until someone is willing to do some testing.
Heck, I’d love to see some numbers on all the models but nobody seems interested in doing that. I’d be glad to travel anywhere with mine and have them tested. I don’t have the financial means to conduct testing myself and I really don’t want to get into that game.
Even in that regard tons of newer suppressor buyers try and narrow down the difference to just a two-digit number to compare cans, and wind up with completely warped sets of expectations. [Pitch, duration, directionality, resonant tones are all things that are hard to attach a simple number to, and are easier to experience]
Anything between 20-24dB reduction at the user end is going to be pretty noticeable, and probably where the M4M, Mini4, and SF Micro cans end up. Still not ear safe, but a significant improvement especially if indoors.
Yeah I certainly realize that I won’t be able to tell a difference between a few dBs, so that isn’t my most important feature for a can. I am either building or buying a 10.5" MK18 for HD use, and will use it suppressed 99% of the time. I think, for me, the most important feature is compactness, so I’m looking across the board at all the “mini” suppressors to see which ones may offer the best suppression.
After going through the Vickers HD/Shoothouse class with my pinned 14.5", I know that I can comfortably clear a doorway with a 16.1" barrel (including FH). The extra half inch that the M42K would add may be negligible, while offering better suppression than a mini can, BUT my main question is how will a mini can sound indoors? For instance, between a M42K and the Mini 4, will there be a noticeable difference in sound if a round is fired indoors? Will the sonic crack of the round negate the extra suppression that a full size can gives you over a mini?
Would an AAC Ranger2 work? Sure it’s thread on but, at $550 MSRP with 4.2" of added length it seems to be a good trade off. At less then 16 oz it’s not that heavy either. It’s not reflex so, all you need is exposed threads in front of those “long” rails.
Speaking from personal experience, I really don’t need the QD systems and the cost of mounts is hard to justify if you’re a cheap bastard. How many of us really move around a suppressor enough to justify the mount expense.
Hmmm … 3X$180 Ops-Inc mounts = $540. I bet I could find someone to discount the Ranger2 by $10.
Thread on is fine for plinking. Centerfire silencers get hot with a mag or two through them, like burn your hand bad hot when you check your thread on silencer for tightness.
