This safe came through in Costco’s latest email and I was wondering if the manufacturer or model is a decent one:
Thanks for any input you can provide.
Cannon is good, but this appears to be one of their low end models. It also seems very small in regards to how many rifles you can store.
It has a one year warranty vs a lifetime warranty for their normal safes, and ten degrees less fire rating. Smells like a special run done for Costco and I suspect outside of the USA.
Cant give you an opinion on that safe, as I dont know much about them, but I am looking to pick up a safe in the near future. And first place I was going to take a look was Costco.
If you, or anyone else finds any current deals on a good safe, please post them up here.
I wasn’t worried too much about the size but I missed the one year warranty. I definitely want something made in the USA too so I’ll keep looking. I’m glad I asked here.
Thanks.
I know we get caught up on cost, but for safes, I would go a little more heavy duty.
This video really opened up my eyes.
It’s tough coming from a position of zero knowledge as everything looks good. I will keep reading up.
I do not know where everyone lives or if Johnson Safes will deliver outside Indiana but he is worth checking out. His custom makes safes and has really good pricing. If you are looking for something special he can do it.
Good Luck
Try Zanotti safes…
I went with Sturdy. I got their second largest that they offer and I am very satisfied thus far. I have had it for just over a year. I added my own custom lighting system which adds a nice touch. Granted they are still just a “rsc” but I feel pretty good with 7 guage steel.
I went with a Champion. It’s 41x29x72
Made in Utah.
Holds 30 guns and a bunch of other stuff. I paid $1700 in 04. Just had to move it so that is why I know. It’s the only thing I got from her/the house. Weighs 1300 lbs. Well worth it. It’s been moved 3 times. Cost $300 to move it 50 miles with a good company. Good investment though. The damn thing will last.
Might be overkill but cry once they say.
I think its the Challenger 50 Model.
I recently went with the Liberty Franklin 35 safe. I felt it was the best RSC for my needs.
A lot of these safes look great but are way out of my price range. What is considered a good budget safe, I am thinking $400 - $700 with capacity for small general items and papers plus up to 8 rifles and some handguns. I know it’s a cry once scenario but I don’t see me ever owning more than my current rifle plus a .22 or two, a 5.56 AR SBR and an AK of some kind. As for handguns, I can see me buying a .22 and another smaller 9mm for carry.
So, large capacity is not a must for me and figure if I had 50% more room that will factor in for any unplanned impulse buys 
You can only get so much past the missus!
Probably OK for a basic RSC for the $$$, but what’s important to understand is, it’s not a safe but an RSC. Some are much better then others. I put up info on that here a while back:
I’m not a safe expert, but I have done a fair amount of research on the topic, and what follows may be of help to those looking at safes/gun safes. When it comes to safes (and the term “safe” we will get to shortly…) you truly get what you pay for. You don’t have spend a fortune for a good container, but in my view, it makes no sense to protect expensive guns, your wife’s jewelry, and essential documents in a “safe” gotten from the sporing goods store.
It’s essential to understand what usually passes for a “safe” is nothing of the kind. Companies spend a lot of time on fancy paint jobs, impressive handles, and marketing to convince people they are getting a true safe. However, the vast majority of what’s sold are Residential Security Container (RSCs)
Companies give you a shiny fancy looking door, etc, but at the end of the day it’s at best RSC rated, and not a “safe” as viewed by anyone who actually knows/installs real safes. It’s important to note, not all RSCs are created equal, but when you look at what the actual RSC UL rating means, it will make you cringe:
“UL rated safes that carry the RSC label offer protection from tool attacks against the door of the safe for five minutes. Safes that carry the TL-15 and TL-30 classification offer protection from tool attacks against the safe’s door for 15 or 30 minutes, respectively. Safes rated TLTR-15 or TLTR-30 offer protection from tool and torch attacks against the door for 15 or 30 minutes, respectively. Safes that are rated TLTRX6-15 or TLTRX6-30 offer protection from tool and torch attacks against any part of the safe for either 15 or 30 minutes. Of course, the price increases with the protection level.”
If what you have/are considering, is UL Rated (and I wouldn’t buy it if were not, but that’s me and if there are any real lock smiths/safe installers here who wish to comment/correct me, please do) look at the inside door panel, there should be a tag that lists its UL rating.
Another important issue, especially for gun safes, most companies use simple gypsum board is an insulator, which draws moisture. They may use fancy terms, but on opening a wall, its gypsum board.
Higher end safes will use a composite of some sort, that is better all around for both fire and security. To the best of my knowledge, only AMSEC uses a composite in the lower end BF series products for example which improves it’s security as well as fire rating.
Budget is the essential issue here, as you can get a cheap 12g gun locker or a TL30 AMSEC gun safe, and much inbetween. It’s often a good idea to decide on what to spend on a safe as a % of what it is you are trying to protect, as well as other factors, such as additional security (alarms, quality of locks, doors, etc, etc) but securing things yo don’t want stolen means not putting it in a cheap metal box that’s intended to prevent kids and “snatch and grab” types.
Second consideration is location, as a real safe has limitations where you can put it due to their weight and size.
As mentioned, not all RSCs are created equal. For example, the AMSEC BF series is as good as some companies B rates safes, etc… and probably the best of the RSCs on the market.
Finally, no matter what you get, have it bolted down. I can’t tell you how many times I have read about safes simply being carried off by a few guys with a hand truck, with the owner (ex owner!) always being shocked! If a few guys with a sturdy hand truck can get it in your house, what makes anyone believe the reverse is not true???
If you do everything right and it still gets broken into/taken away, 99.9%, it’s an inside job and someone knew exactly what you had and came prepared, so pick your friends well!
If you have the budget and need to protect an expensive collection (and people willing to put their collection of fine guns into a cheap RSC are asking for trouble…). I believe AMSEC is the only company that makes a TL30 UL listed gun safe.
It’s a monster…See:
http://www.amsecusa.com/gun-safes-HS-main.htm
That’s my basic run down/advice on safes that comes from my research, discussions with many a safe installer, etc. Feel free to add your thoughts. I’m sure some of you can confirm what I said above about safes simply being taken away during your work experiences as LE
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=51518&highlight=AMSEC
I have a sentry safe and for what I paid for it you can go wrong. There located in East Rochester NY and every month they have a sale on one model, I think they also do MIL/LE pricing and they have a scratch and dent section. I paid 450$ for my 14 gun fire safe.
I didnt even want a fire rated safe as drywall has a higher fire rating than most safes out there I see it as a unneeded expence and would just build my safe into a custom box along my wall and double up some 5/8" board.
Thanks for the insight, I am definitely learning a lot here.
Size and weight is definitely a consideration. The space in my house I have in mind means an 8 - 12 long gun sized box. I believe I am right in thinking that I need to be careful with the weight too as the construction of my (single story) house is on a concrete slab. Any clue what my upper weight limit might be? I can throw a rock at a fire station so I am not sure the fire rating needs to be too long. I intend on bolting down but my aim is defeat the opportunist and casual thief. A determined thief will definitely get what he wants. 
Here’s the thing–once you get your guns in the safe, your significant other will want you to put other things in there (important papers, jewelry)…you may want to put computer back-ups or other valuables in there (probably in a separate, smaller document safe).
I say wait and buy once (and buy big). I didn’t think I needed a big safe, because I wasn’t going to buy too many other guns…then bought one size bigger. About a year later, my FIL gave me 4 rifles and his S&W Model 19…and I’m eyeballing another pistol.
You don’t know what you’ll do in the future…but you will regret not getting a larger safe than what you’re looking at now.
just my 2 cents.
This.
If what you are looking at is to stop the casual theif vs the more determined thief, then I doubt very much you will have any weight issues in any modern constructed house.
As with women and breast implants, you’ll wish you went bigger. 
Hah! I should take my own advice then :lol: Life was kind to me in this area and the wife thanks me for it now. Perhaps that will be the opening line in my argument to spend more money on a safe Trouble is, she’s smart and will counter with the extra saline didn’t cost anything!
Back to the real subject, the only reason I mentioned weight was the American Security safes that Will linked to started at a weight of 3400 lbs.