I have an SSA in one of my guns and an LMT 2 stage in the other. The SSA is noticeably smoother in the first stage. Head and shoulders above a typical stock single stage.
I ordered the SSA after reading all the reviews I could. I have considerable trigger time with the stock trigger and my other build has the updated Chip McCormick. The CM is a nice trigger but has too light of a reset for my comfort level on a non benched gun.
Just put the SSA on my M&P15 and WOW it was worth the money. The feel is night and day compared to the stock trigger. I picked the SSA because I wanted something that was reliable no matter what, and just plain worked. If our sf boys use them and work with no problems, that’s the reliability I can trust. Personally I would go with the SSA because its very smooth, fits most situations (CQB and mid-length engagements), built like a rock, and the price is not SUPER crazy. $170 is worth every penny. But it’s your gun and do what you think is best.
If all goes as planned tom I am supposed to go to the range. Can’t wait to see how it really preforms. If I get range time tom I’ll let you know how it goes.
Buy once, cry once.
I’ve had the hi-speed national match DMR trigger on my Mk12 build for two or more years now. Geissele must be doing something right. When I bought my DMR trigger, I think the SSA’s weren’t released yet and had no other product line I recall. Now they’ve greatly expanded their product line. I haven’t tried everything out there but it’s the best feeling bang button I’ve come across. I haven’t come across folks that are having these triggers fail but you’ll see a lot of mentions of other brands of precision triggers which have failed, or two-stage triggers magically becoming one-stage or a mushfest.
Once I get this next rig built, I’m getting an SSA installed. I’m not sure if you have a local dealer that stocks Geissele, but Rainier has them installed on dummy lowers so you can try out the trigger pulls on their products. It’s a great way to feel the difference between the triggers versus reading accounts over the internet.
The Geisselle SSA-E is the trigger I wish I could install in ALL my self loading rifles.
The SSA is the trigger I would start beginner shooters with.
The only complaint I have about these triggers is the long reset, but it’s a very minor one
After reading the following sentence “… the SSA has a “Crane NSWC Safety Certification”, the SSA-E does not, nor does the SD-C.”
I was all set to go with the SSA.
WHY is the SSA for beginners and what is your reason for liking the SSA-E better.
I’ll hold off my purchase till you hopefully answer.
My other choice was the Wilson combat trigger. Even more expensive than the above.
Any input you have on the Wilson would sure be appreciated.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=31705/Product/AR_15_M16_TACTICAL_TRIGGER_UNIT
The SD-C is a far superior trigger than the SSA imho…the only reason it doesn’t have the crane safety cert. is because it’s basically brand new. Its a totally refined SSA in every respect of the trigger’s pull.
Every GA trigger is hand rolled with the up most love and care, all are designed from the ground up with not only amazing feeling pulls, but more importantly with reliability and safety in mind…hints why GA’s trigger lineup features so many 2 stage vs. single stage trigger designs.
The Super Dynamic triggers are the stars of the show imho.
A $125 give or take GA trigger will avail. hopefully w/in a few weeks called the S2S which will be a dynamite option for tons of people.
Lastly, the people behind GA triggers are second to none…PERIOD!
The SSA is up top…the Super Dynamic Enhanced (SDE) is on bottom:
Hey Trident,
That SD combat trigger is $100 less that the Wilson combat trigger.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=31705/Product/AR_15_M16_TACTICAL_TRIGGER_UNIT
If you got a moment please visit the link above and let me know what you feel is the better of the two.
The trigger kit comes with a slave pin. Remember to keep the slave pin as it will make it easier to dissassemble and reassemble.
I have read some good things about the Wilson combat trigger however I don’t own one.
I honestly believe that the SD-C/E are easily the finest AR triggers made to date that Ive ever used. I could spend days trying to find the smallest of things I disliked or would change about the units all for not…they are perfect in my book:)
check out this thread…
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=936969#post936969
and this one…
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=70842&page=2
Excellent triggers, worth the price. I am gradually removing the GI Type triggers and replacing with Geissele.
I have fired Colt, Bushmaster, and my Geissele SSA triggers.
Based on that I would say the original triggers are like McDonald’s angus and the Geissele is real angus from a great restaurant.
I’ve got an SSA in my rifle and if I accumulate more ARs they will all get them as well.
My buddy has the SSA-E…it’s great too but I like the SSA better…maybe because i’m really used to it. Can’t go wrong with either.
WELL WORTH THE MONEY!!
If you don’t have the cash to equip every lower you own with one, I would actually take a second to consider trying them - but try anyway.
I’m so happy with the SSA, I’m reluctant to try anything else. My groups with my SPR got halved, so my opinion may not be worth all that much, but it’s very much in favor.
There is a big gun show near me that I went to today. One of the few vendors with quality stuff had a few Geissele triggers in a jig so you could feel them. I tried the SSA and National Match. Both were excellent; the National Match being lighter and crisper.
If you can find a place that has a setup where you can try them out I would take advantage of it.
My previous experience with triggers are with Bulls Eye 1911’s. I am used to super crisp 3-4lb triggers so the National Match doesn’t seem light to me.
This forum is obviously geared towards “fighting” ARs and many feel 3-4lbs is dangerously light for stressful applications. The SSA felt a bit heavier and was slightly less crisp.
Bonus for me is that I recently realized that Geissele Company is 5 miles from my house and I heard you can go there and they will sell you a trigger. I am hoping they have a setup where I can try all their stuff.
the Geissele® SSA … I picked up (3) sets at SS, they’re an outstanding FCG
What I like about the SSA-E is that it’s light and crisp, and being as crisp as it is, the break feels even lighter. It also has very little back lash. If a non-adjustable trigger this good was made available in a bolt action rifle from the factory, you’d hear about it from every rooftop. The fact it’s made for a self loading rifle, particularly the AR, amazes me.
The SSA feels the same except it has a break that’s heavier and not as crisp. Whereas the SSA-E simply breaks, the SSA feels like the corner was rounded a bit. It requires a deliberate press to break the shot and it’s less likely that an inexperienced finger taking up the slack of the first stage will miss feeling the second stage, unintentionally setting off the rifle. Combined with the fact it’s very, very consistent (as is the SSA-E) makes it the perfect trigger for beginning shooters to gain confidence in their ability to control the trigger and allows them to focus on fundamentals.
Do not take this to mean I feel the SSA-E is only for expert or experienced shooters. Just that I feel the SSA makes a better trigger for the beginner
I have an Geissele SSA in my BCM rifle and without a doubt it has made my shooting improve dramatically as much as quality optics. I love the feel of the trigger and it’s just amazing every time I use it, very crisp, clean, and light feeling to it. They are pricey but my justification for it is that you will get a return on your investment each and every time you fire your rifle. $180 well spent for me.
I ended up buying the ssa. Thanks guys.
Got a quick question on the Geisselle triggers.
What kind of round counts will these triggers last for? Being that they are a two stage is there a point in which the two stage will become like a single stage?
Seems like I have read somewhere that some other two stage triggers eventually become glorified single stage.
Thanks