Would this be a good M4 clone ? http://www.fnhusa.com/l/products/carbines/fn-15-series/ I prefer Colt,but these seem well made too. Has anybody shot one ?
I used both Colt and FN in the Army and I consider them equal.
I have a few Colts and I haven’t used a civi FN.
If you buy a Colt, you will get a rifle that is equal to rifles Colt builds for the military.
That is not the case with FN. They cheapend the “civilian” line of rifles.
Therefore, easy decision to buy Colt between the two.
That thread is 40-something pages long. Mind summarizing?
So not only are people unwilling to search a particular subject, they also need it read to them??
I recently bought one of the FN-15 rifles (20 inch barrel) but haven’t had a chance to shoot it yet. They’ve gotten good reviews as far as overall accuracy and build standard (fit and finish), but most would not consider them in the same league as Colt or BCM. They’re probably more of a “middle of the road” AR, not quite top tier but better than Oly/Windham/etc.
For most of us range/plinking types they’ll be fine, but you do get the big “FN” billboard on the side.
I’m not the OP. I’m also not responsible for your bad day. Nor the 40-something pages of worthless comments that drowned out the topic and made that thread an impractical source of information. Apparently m4carbin.net’s “signal to noise ratio” failed that day.
This thread won’t turn out any different. There will be very little support for the FN here.
Maybe Jack Bauer will use one in a future episode and there’ll be instant credibility ![]()
I have one. Ive put roughly 3000 rds through it and it hasn’t missed a beat. Nothing to complain about other then the Colt followers always seem to snub them…lol
Kind of like your post. All noise and no meat.
OP buy the Colt.
Yeah no bias here lol
My LGS has some of the newer, more expensive models and they look better than the older, less expensive, more basic guns.
By which I mean: Castle nuts are staked, full-auto BCGs, H-marked buffer weights, barrels marked 5.56mm, 1:7" twist, cold hammer-forged, chrome-lined. And the gun that I handled was a mid-gas government contour. Had an MLOK handguard of unknown (to me) make. Was priced about what I’d expect to pay for a BCM or Daniel Defense with comparable features. Of course, I don’t know what materials they’re using (and as I was looking for curiosity’s sake and not because I want one or anyone I know wants one, I don’t care). And I’m not superfond of the Timney triggers they’re using in the fancier models - I would prefer Geissele.
So I think the higher end, newer models are on par with BCM and Daniel Defense. But, because I haven’t shot the crap out of a random selection of them and am not familiar with the materials used, I don’t know that.
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They came onto the market with 1:7 barrels marked 5.56mm that were chrome lined (I’m pretty sure). As far as price, mine (full length rifle) was $975 from Bud’s. Dunno if that’s typical or not.
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Meh. I didn’t pay much attention to them. I assumed they were 1:9s based on the general consensus that they were hobbyist-grade.
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I looked them over.
1. Castle nut isn't staked.
2. RE isn't 7075.
3. Car buffer
4. The one gun I looked at had misaligned barrel extension and feed ramps.
5. Selector is the same one DD uses.
6. FCG is unknown to me. Trigger had a lot creep and was heavy.
7. Gas key was staked fine.
Fit and finish looked fine. This a cheap AR that isn't built as well as a BCM or Colt. If that is ok with you, cool. Make no mistake about what you are getting though.
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Here's my observation. I picked them up and looked at them to include opening them up.
1. Putting Loc-tite on the castle nut and not staking it, with the explanation that people may want to change the endplate out is ridiculous.
2. Using a standard buffer rather than an H buffer makes no sense.
3. Unknown fire control group parts. Not Schmid like Colt or ALG triggers.
4. Rifle had an F marked FSB. Why?
5. Not having the rollmark thing straight before the show. Makes little sense.
Overall with the price point that has been mentioned I don't see this as great value at all and someone looking for a similar M4 will be better served looking at Colt, BCM or others.
The general consensus is they are not on par with Colt, I posted above a few SME’s opinions on these rifles as I myself have never looked one over.
Seems to be a fair assessment.
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