I have 5 handguns I’m wondering if there is a one handgun that can do the job of them all. 1. ccw 2.competition 3. Backup well hunting dangerous game. As well as being reasonably priced for such a thing so less then $2,000
The 5 are: a kimber hd tactical,glock 17,20, hk uspc 9mm, lcr 38 spl. Or am I over looking the one that can do it all.
Guns are tools, each one has a place and purpose. This is a perfect excuse to stock up. But start with a. 45
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Exactly. A Glock 20 isn’t easy to stuff in your dress pants pockets. Likewise a S&W 642 is a piss-poor option when a bear is charging at you in the middle of the woods. If I had to choose one gun, it would be a Glock 19. If I were restrained by asinine magazine capacity restrictions, maybe a HK45. Otherwise, choose your weapons based on your needs.
The glock 29 probably gets closest to what you are asking for…but I agree with what is said above. They are tools. Choose the right one for the job, if you can afford to do so.
For your requirements, CCW and competition lend itself more to 9mm and .40 (with the exception being CDP and Single Stack divisions) while backup for hunting lends itself more to 10mm and .45.
A full size 1911 is not very difficult to conceal, but is heavy. It would meet all 3 of your requirements though. I think it’s more important to stick to the same manual of arms and weapon type though (i.e. stick to all glocks, or all M&P’s, or all 1911/2011’s) and get specific guns within that style for each of your needs.
Glock 20 based on #3
Glock 20. There are loads made for woods carry and you can also find loads that will just cycle the slide for IDPA.
1 & 2 = Glock 19
2 - Glock 17, 19 or Glock 21
3 = Glock 21 chambered for .460 Rowland
As previously sated they are a tool, therefore you need the right tool for the job
Realistically one gun could cover 1&2, but not 3. One gun could also cover 2&3 but not 1.
I guess if it must be able to stop a dangerous animal as well as sort of conceal and be accurate enough for some types of competition I would go for a S&W 629 .44 Magnum with a 4" bbl. Probably not the answer you were looking for but if I had to have something effective against large animals I want a large bore magnum round, and that rules out pretty much any reasonable auto pistol.
In the auto world I would have to say the 1911 chambered in 10mm. For a revolver I would start with a stubby 44 special.
I agree with the response above that guns are tools, but some are more versatile than others. A Glock 21 - if it fits your hand and you can manipulate it well; dirt dive this first - will handle just-make-Major loads for competition to HSTs/Rangers for self defense, to 250gr hard-cast lead or 220 FMJ-TC for backwoods duty. If you shoot lead, consider a KKM drop-in barrel or keep your chamber and breech face clean. Some folks shoot lead with looking back from their Glocks. I don’t except for a box of year out of a clean barrel of Buffalo Bore loads on trips to the Rockies.
If you don’t hand load you’ll be throwing bigger bucks at ammo of any type for a 10mm. With both Colt Deltas and a Glock 20 (and I’ve had other '20s and two 29s), go with a '20 if you are willing to take aboard the issues with ammo and maybe tinkering with the recoil spring assemblies (to get more resistance). You’ll need to do the same fit-to-function check with the big-framed '20 as with a '21. The Deltas don’t like a steady diet of of hard-pounding. 1911s, of course, need more love, detailed knowledge, and attention.
If you really like the idea of the big-framed Glocks but the ergos or size are not quite right, there are some real magicians out there who can reduce grip size, texture, etc. I’ve done this on a '21 and a '20 and the changes are nothing short of amazing.
Hope this helps.
I sort of think the premise is a little funny but in the spirit of play; the Gen 4 G23. With select loads you can drive larger bullets deep on game. CCW obvious. Competition - somewhat handicapped but doable.
I’ve got a couple hundred rounds through one of these of late and it’s a nice pistol. I never liked shooting the Gen 3 G23 but this one’s recoil is not offensive.
G 30?
A pistol that can do it ALL is a pretty tall order. If the cartridge is too weak, it would not be adequate for animal protection…if it is too powerful, then it becomes difficult to control in a dynamic shooting situation with an armed perp. In my opinion, the best compromise would be a high capacity 10mm Auto with full power loads. Having shot a few black bear myself, I would not use a standard service caliber. You really need caliber that has the ability to shoot a high sectional density bullet that is heavy, AND fast. Glock 20 or 29 would be my choice with either 180gr JHPs at around 1300fps, or 200gr JHPs at around 1150fps. If that is your choice, you’d better get into reloading for it.
G30s should do the trick
No way one gun can do it all. For me my minimum would go something like this:
Deep cover gun ( seecamp 32)
Regular carry j frame or glock 26
Idpa gun glock 19
Revolver smith 15
Bullseye 22 ( smith model 17)
Bullseye center fire (smith model14)
Cowboy revolver colt saa
If I hunted add a smith 29 this is minimum and I like to have a backup to each in case something breaks so right now I have 15 pistols and could use a few more actually
My vote goes to the 1911. You’ll make major with the .45ACP. Easy to conceal and carry with a nice belt and holster. For protection against some animals, I’m sure there are some hard cast .45ACPs that can get the job done at smaller distances. Never fired a 10mm 1911, not sure how manageable it is for CC.
If you’ve got the physical build, you may be able to CC a Glock 20. Get a conversation barrel in .40 S&W for competition.
I’m going to offer my answer with a different approach. If $2000 is your budget, you should easily be able to do it, but you’ll need more than one gun.
I’d suggest pairing a Glock 19 or 17 with a Glock 20.
The Glock 19 will enable you to carry quite well while getting started in competition, and if you desire, you can eventually grab a G34 specifically for competition. But the G19 will be easy to conceal and you can still enjoy competing with it.
The Glock 20 will give you a more powerful cartridge, and while it’s not exactly a 44 magnum, it’ll allow you to stay with the same style platform as your carry gun. I know I’d rather make hits with a 10mm than carry a revolver the I’m certainly not going to shoot as well.
It’s not 3 birds with one stone, but I don’t think you’re going to find that good of a solution to that wide a variety of uses.
I suppose you could get the Glock 20 and use reloads for competition if you’re a reloader.
But G19/G20 combo would be $1160 out the door where I shop…
For 2k you can get 2 or 3 Glocks that would cover all of that territory:
CCW: G19 or G17
Competition: G41, G34, G35, G17, or G19
Dangerous Game: G41, G35
They would have nearly identical triggers, sights, handling, and sight to grip angles.
They would share a large number of repair parts and if you are clever about the mix, you would have a reduced need for multiple magazines per platform.
Maybe the OP could enlighten us as to what kind of dangerous animals he might encounter while hunting. In most parts of the lower 48 there are very few dangerous wild animals. If the OP lives in brown bear country or hunts there he’s better off with bear spray as a first line of defense. If a handgun has to be relied on anything less than a .44 Magnum pushing heavy 300+gr bullets is probably a waste of time since stopping a large dangerous animal requires deep penetration through heavy fur, muscle, and bones to reach vitals and break the animal down. Even a .44 Magnum is going to be marginal for this but is about the most powerful round most shooters can tolerate out of a reasonably sized handgun. For the recoil acclimated shooter I would look at the .454 Casull, .475 Linebaugh, or one of the other really big bore magnum handguns. If you need to stop a big pissed off brown bear you need something that can act as a sledgehammer and bigger is better. Bear spray will still probably work better though, and also cause no permanent harm or land you in jail for poaching until you can plead your case. Did I mention bear spray?
For most other potentially dangerous animals in the feral hog, mountain lion, or black bear size/weight build class a .44 Magnum is still a good choice, maybe even perfect. Other decent choices include: .41 Magnum, 10mm, .45 Super, .460 Rowland, or .45ACP +P. From the standpoint of readily finding ammo for any of those listed the .44 Magnum and .45ACP are the clear leaders. If you reload then you have better options, but I still like wheel guns for this option for versatility since you can use any bullet shape you want and load to any power level you want within pressure limits and have no worries about cycling or feeding. Plus a revolver doesn’t fling your expensive brass into the bushes never to be seen again.
If any of the above critters aren’t likely to be encountered your normal everyday carry gun will work great! For stray dogs, or bobcats trying to join you in a tree stand, or if you hunt in pot grower meth lab infested areas a normal duty capable auto or revolver will obviously work well.