So what’s the lifespan of a cd/dvd/blu-ray if kept out of the heat and high humidity? Are we at a point where an entire generation or two of music/imaging will be lost to future generations?
Regarding music, I’ve been thinking about this thread. Back in the 1970’s, those of us listening to 60’s-70’s Pop/Rock knew all the intricate details of the band and the names of their members. You knew David Crosby went from the Byrds to eventually teaming up with Stills, Nash & Young. I personally saw Crosby-Stills-Nash at a concert in December 1969 with some older cousins. You knew about Clapton and the evolution from Cream to his solo career. You don’t get the same thing with Country Fans. You ask them about the band members/vocalists and they can maybe name a lead singer…and that’s it.
I get immense joy asking fans of Rascal-Flatts to point out in a picture and identify which one is the Rascal, and which one is Flatts. I do like a couple of their songs, but I know nothing about the members or their history.
People who know me personally find out when it comes to contemporary culture, I am a mix of Hawkeye Pierce from MASH and George Carlin. I saw Carlin live in 1981 in Arizona and I always liked his perspective. I only wish he was alive now and able to analyze where our society has gone. I detest the overuse of technology and how people interact. When I was a teenager, it was looking into the eyes of another person, a warm embrace and friendly conversation.
Now people trudge through life with a device in their right hand, eyes down looking at the thing, and making or losing friends with the click of a button. I defy that culture. When somebody asks me to “Like Us on Facebook” I just want to say “F^%$ Off”. I don’t define my life by a $600 telephone and how many “friends” I have on Facebook (I don’t do it), nor do I do Twitter or Instagram. Maybe you get an idea of this since I’ve been here going on 10 years, and I’ve only got a little over 1000 posts. I live and work in a beautiful part of the world, and my life is not controlled or defined by modern technology.
I doubt anything will be lost as we can still get music from the 1st half of the century. If it was made it was recorded somewhere on something and will just be released in whatever the current format would be.
As far as the topic goes. I don’t have any serious favorites. I’d rather not listen to rap or country but if either are on I’m kinda… whatever… about it and music in general. I don’t have any home music collection except for a few CDs I bought as a teen laying around in some box. I listen to one station in my car and it’s mostly just for background music. The station plays classic rock from the 60s - 80s.
I really get this… Fans of current pop music and fans of current country music don’t know anything about the other members of the band except the lead singer, and they change the other members out all the time because it doesn’t seem to matter to their fan base. They are too distracted by all of the multi colored flashing lights and all of the dancers that do their job to distract them from the terrible music and illuminati symbolism.
Of the very few bands that I follow the other members of the band are just as important to me as the lead, and when they get replaced I take notice and I’m usually not to thrilled about the change, especially when it comes to the drummers.
lifespan varies ? I think rot is rare but I have had it on a few discs and a while ago I just quit using them mainly do to capacity and what I do as a photographer but I had backups of HDD all the time
if you google and read again rare it happens but its more just in case you only have one copy of something rare such as photos or some live event you had just make sure you have it on a few other types of media and all is good
scanning my dads old negatives from Korean war quite a few have gone bad sadly
some of my slides from even the late 70s early 80s have faded some and changed color so reckon nothing is for ever etc… ditto the other post wont be lost music wise as everything will be around most likely in some form
my old records are still around do not use them ? they are in another home anyway but my brother is a huge vinyl fan
my CDs I ripped everything but keep the CD with the sleeve in a thin type sleeve rather than original cover same as my movies etc…
games these days since they have a very short play life anyway I just get digital editions
Accurate. Country has gradually become more rock. Originally rock and country were hard to distinguish. Listen to early Carl Perkins, or the Everly Brothers. With today’s ear, those artists could fit both categories. The lines have always been blurred at times: the Beatles and Rolling Stones did some country tunes, albeit they certainly wouldn’t be played on the radio alongside George Jones or Conway Twitty. But bands like the Eagles made it cool to incorporate country sounds into rock tunes. You might hear a straight-ahead country song right alongside a rocker on an Eagles or a Creedence Clearwater Revival album. So it went the other way too: country artists more and more became unabashed rockers. I think it was Marty Stewart on TV a few months or years ago that sounded like he would be right at home alongside some of the straight ahead rock bands. Check out the Georgia Satellites for an obviously country lead vocal with a hard rock backing.
I think the worst genre next to rap, though, has to be what they call “Bro Country.” It incorporates some of the worst excesses of party rock and rap with an emphasis on having a good time, getting drunk, etc.
I think every Florida-Georgia-Line record should be used for target practice. Just MHO.
I think disc rot is overhyped. I have CD’s from the 80’s that still look pristine and play just fine. It’s all in how you treat them/store them.
CD’s are obsolete, but even LP’s made a comeback after they were written off as dead. I don’t think cassettes or 8-tracks have a future, but CD’s will have a niche market like LP’s.
Linda Ronstadt and Juice Newton had one foot in each genre. In fact, some of Linda’s old tunes from the 1970’s would fit right in with today’s country.
Also consider someone like the late Louis Charles “BW” Stevenson from the 1970’s. He was a Texas performer whose music fell somewhere between Country and Country Rock. He released “My Maria” which was years later redone by Brooks & Dunn. Stevenson also did “Shambala”, which was eclipsed by the Three Dog Night version.
Sometimes you have performers who just can’t be placed in a category. Case in point is Klein, Texas native, Lyle Lovett. He’s country, but not mainstream. His style of music is popular in eastern New Mexico and rural Texas.
It used to be called ‘Country-Western’ and I’ve always thought artists like The Son’s of the Pioneers and Marty Robbins were definitely of the Western persuasion.
Not a lot of whining or bragging in their songs, just facts and stories.
Nor do I. I always thought Bob Seger was classic rock not county, I’m in my 30’s.
I listen to a classic country station and yeah they never play Seger but the classic rock station does.
As for blurred lines there is a reason my favorite singer of all time, Johnny Cash is in both the Country Music Hall of Fame and the Rock-N-Roll Hall of Fame.
IMHO modern country was ruined back in the 90’s by Garth Brooks and all that followed him in that decade, ****ing Billy Ray Cyrus, etc.
In fact this is why King George (peace be upon him and his) made the film Pure Country and based his Dusty character off several of the artist of the day such as Garth Brooks who brought pyrotechnics and cable acrobats to country music.
I knew mainstream country was dead in the early 2000’s when metro-sexual pop shit like Keith Urban and Rascal Flatts came on the scene. :suicide:
King George and Alan Jackson (good friends in real life) even went as far as to make Murder on Music Row.
I think that Texas Country and Red Dirt (from Oklahoma) appeals to me so much, because most of the singer/songwriters are heavily influenced by classic country and classic rock.
95.9 The Ranch (KFWR) is a station out of Ft. Worth that plays this stuff. You can listen to it live on the internet, and they have an app that will stream it on your phone. They play Texas Country and Red Dirt, but you’ll also hear Stevie Ray Vaughn, ZZ Top, Willie, Waylon, Lyle Lovett, and others. Cross Canadian Ragweed once had some swag that said, “Smells like Country, tastes like Rock n Roll”. I think that pretty fitting for what a lot of Texas Country and Red Dirt sounds like.
95.3 The Range (KHYI) is over in Dallas. The are more geared towards Americana and Classic Country, but they also play Texas Country and Red Dirt. You can listen to them from anywhere with an internet connection, as well.
People like my dad would shit down both legs if someone even as “rock” as the Allman Brothers got played on the same radio station as Merle Haggard. Then you go the other extreme and a lot of rock fans both love and respect Johnny Cash. Somewhere in the middle is the popular music fan who gleefully owns both country and rock records and doesn’t see anything wrong with that.
Could be why foreigners refer to all of it as “American Music”.
It’s three guitars and a drum kit and a vocalist that can’t sing. That’s all you need. Call it what you want. Those boys playin’ hillbilly standards in the Appalachian Mountains are not a whole lot different than the guys with the pudding bowl haircuts playing in the garage. It’s all folk music. Some add a fuzz pedal. Some add pedal steel. It’s all good. Take a time machine back to the early sixties when some radio stations might play Sinatra and then the Beatles. I wasn’t there but I’ve heard that claim from old timers.
I have been collecting CD’s since 1985 while stationed in Germany. I probably have about 1-200 that are from that time. I also got some Bose 901 speakers I got for $600 in '85.
I think Texas Country came out of the Outlaw Country genre when Willie and Waylon took Austin by storm in the 70’s. They’ve been flipping the bird to Nashville ever since!
Robert Earl Keen was neighbors with Lyle Lovett when they were at Texas A&M, they would play together pick’n out on their front porches. REK IMHO is the best of the genre. Charlie Robinson’s My Home Town should have been our class song but I went school with a bunch or retards. CCR (the boys from Oklahoma) were huge when I was down at Texas A&M, as was Pat Green.
As for blurring the lines of country, rock, and folk . . .
I lived in College Station for a few years, and that’s where I went from listening to Texas Country to meeting and hanging out with a lot of those guys. I met Robert Earl Keen in Huntsville, but he doesn’t remember. He’s one of my favorites, along with Steve Earle. Great song writers and story tellers. Speaking of Robert Earl Keen and Lyle Lovett sitting on that front porch…
