Oh Crap Moment ND

Spring is coming and we’ll all be wearing lightweight jackets. Many of them will have drawstrings. Everyone be careful and safe when holstering their pistols while wearing one of these. (This issue will not apply strictly to Glocks.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrJMQupYxaw

Thanks for the link to the video. I am going to use this for safety training and have the students point out things that were done in an unsafe manner prior to and after the weapon discharged.

Plus, no one carrying concealed should ever remove their holstered weapon at a gun store.

Interesting. Everyone seems to laugh at manual safeties nowadays. For example on the S&W Shield. Maybe not such a bad idea after all. You don’t have to use the safety, but at least its an option for some situations.

That is the first point I plan on bringing up at class.

Very good advice.

Don’t just limit your scrutiny to the drawstrings and toggles on the hem. A lot of jackets have care tags (washing instructions) sewn in, with spare buttons on them. Those can also become an issue.

This. And it’s absurd

Lets not forget that even manual safeties fail sometimes.

Gotta be careful. Earlier tonight I brought my Springer 1911 in from the range bag and forgot I had left it loaded. No biggie, I cleared it, but I imagined myself dry-firing it or something absent-mindedly and could have easily reduced my home’s insulation efficiency and changed the tint of my underwear.

Draw quickly, holster slowly and look while you’re doing it.

NDs like this seem to be more common that most think and Ill bet a ton never make the news or Internet forums. One just happened at my gun club last month.

However I never see people report safeties failing (not that it doesn’t happen) and I’ve never seen any data looking at LE or civilians forgetting to remove their TS during a gunfight.

It seems that what was once taboo is now something to be ridiculed now that Glock convinced everyone you didn’t need one. I would love to see how people react if Glock comes out with a carbine and no manual safety :wink:

A lot of people strongly advocate watching your gun all the way into the holster, and for good reason. This is definitely something to be mindful of. I could conceivably see this same thing happening with just the hem of your shirt or sweater, even if it doesn’t have a drawstring.

This was a timely video. My wife just got her concealed permit and has a Glock 26 (she’s been shooting it for a while and favors it) and I mentioned being mindful of the trigger at all times, and brought up ‘Glock Leg.’ This was the perfect video to illustrate not only that it happens and how, but that it happens to seasoned professionals as well.

While I trust the Glock (G17 for me) and myself for safe carry, I did switch to carrying either an HK P30S in 9MM or a .38Spl LCR. I’m just more comfortable with a DA/SA + safety semi-auto or a DA revolver. When you make operating the safety part of your routine (just like with the AR) it’s not even a concern for me as to whether or not I’ll forget it’s on.

Had a guy tell me the other day tell me how he thought he cleared his Colt 6920 and pulled the trigger only to get a loud bang out of his gun. He lived in a condo, luckily it was in Miami and there was concrete in the walls. He was able to fish out the flattened and almost disintegrated projectile from the wall.

One more thing to keep in mind when choosing clothing while carrying (which is always of course!). I don’t think 3 incidents in the history of Glock’s existent involving a toggle draw string is enough to sway a company into manual safeties (nor should it be). I do think it’s an excellent example of complacency being potentially deadly. I believe that Chief’s was shrouded, but also another argument for shrouded trigger holsters. I can’t fathom why people use those screw on clips or any other “holster” that doesn’t completely shroud the trigger guard. I think if he had used his support hand to lift up the clothing away from his holster, while holstering, or visually holstered it, this would have never happened.

I agree with what most said here. Especially Gentleart with picking up your clothing before re-holstering if you do have to remove your firearm.

Among some people who carry a firearm everyday but rarely shoot or train with one, I believe a complacency begins. The pistol becomes no different then their radio, light, wallet, car keys, etc.

Before I was married I lived with two friend of mine; a cop and a lawyer. The lawyer and I were childhood friends an shot together frequently for years. The cop rarely shot despite access to free department ammo.

We went shooting with the cop and his work buddies ONCE. Single handedly the most unsafe group of people I’ve ever seen around guns before or since. In a post shooting day discussion I mentioned my theory to the cop and he actually agreed. I told them Glocks were probably not a good choice for his department (to which the ball bustin lawyer said guns were not a good choice for them :p)

This guy later shot himself through the hand with a .22 pistol he took off a hoodlum.

This isn’t to trash on cops but rather people who become complacent around guns.

I wish we got free ammo to train with, heck, I wish we had access to a range through the department :(. You’re right, to be honest a lot of officers only shoot once or twice a year, to qual. Some departments with big budgets are different, most don’t assist. I have a lot of respect for the departments that factor a big chunk out of their budget to firearms training and training retention. Complacency kills :frowning:

That’s the second time that fellow has shot himself according to the video.

Maybe he needs to consider not carrying a gun…