I dunno buddy, you might want to have this conversation with your wife, Women’s bodies do some strange stuff during menopause. No period for six months, then She has a period, after about month three and after seeing a Doctor she will probably go off birth control.
Strange stuff man, very strange stuff.
Sometimes, after all the years, I have to remind myself what a catch I made.
BTDT with wife #2. LOL. I may have posted this earlier: I got clipped in the early 80’s after two kids. I read a couple articles that said the danger of deep vein thrombosis was 3-4 times greater in women who took oral contraceptives. Very small percentages, but dang, no bad things recorded for the old snip and clip, and at the time I really, really, liked wife #1. For me the choice was easy.
Interesting that you would take that as a punishment or read punishment into it.
You do realize being aroused and having sex is how people procreate, right? The Darwin angle is that without that drive, a species doesn’t exist for very long. Beyond, Blue Lagoon, most people realize that sex can lead to pregnancy. Our genes put pressure on us to procreate, make it fun to do and it leads to babies.
The large part of the abortion argument seems to think things start after the woman is pregnant- devoid of any discussion about why she’s pregnant. You have sex, everyone knows that it can lead to a baby- don’t be surprised that it leads to a baby and killing it isn’t a choice. Having sex with out considering the repercussions on not just a child, but YOUR child.
You have sex, you can get pregnant. Not wanting to be pregnant doesn’t give you the right to kill the baby- you cast your lot when you had sex. People try to shirk their responsibilities all the time, doesn’t make it right.
I’ll believe people are serious about ending abortion when they start petitioning to make condoms available in school bathrooms free of charge, when girls can walk into the school nurse’s office and be given an oral contraceptive, when they demand that IUDs be covered by health insurance or otherwise available for those who can least afford to pay for them, and admit that abstinence based sexual education is working as well as abstinence based firearms education.
You are talking two extremes - abstinence based education and active encouragement. I’m okay with teaching the biology involved - including the all important ‘why pull it out doesn’t work’ - but coaching on how to have a good sexual relationship doesn’t belong in secondary schools.
I do belief that at least condoms ought to be available free of charge at public health offices and health departments. They are readily available either on the shelf or on the wall displays at every convenience store I frequent. Back in the day you had to go face to face with the pharmacist and ask for your Trojans - ‘Y e a h, I n e e d a B a b y R u t h, a S n i c k e r s, a b o t t l e o f c i n n a m o n o i l, andapackofTrojansplease.’
During my Senior year in high school two girls I knew got pregnant. Both quit school when they started showing and got married, their boyfriends completed school - key words - got married.
Today our local high school has a daycare for student babies, and if not to capacity, teacher/staff members children. The girl has the kid, most of the time the couple breaks up, and the guy starts dating another chick.
Responsibility - so rare it should be a super power.
Not me… or not for right now.
Most sex being had in the world is for pleasure, not procreation… and there is no “penalty” or “punishment” for it. Post fertilization, there is the morning after pill and there are also 20 weeks to decide to terminate or not.
It’s interesting that so many anti-choice activists are sexually undesirable or seemingly have unhealthy sex lives. Is it just to get back at people who are going to all the parties, having all the sex, and enjoying their lives?
I also wonder how many of them owe their own existence to punishment birth, or who were otherwise unwanted. It’s sad.
It’s only a child if you choose to bring it into the world.
A clump of cells adhered to the uterine wall has no public personality.
Are you saying that’s a good thing??
It’s a second order effect of a tragedy that could be averted with a simple outpatient procedure. Now you have an unwanted kid… with an uneducated mother… and a father that’s going to be strapped with financial obligations that are simply unable to be addressed by an 18 year old with a HS diploma.
That sounds to me like a situation that should happen as seldom as possible in a society.
This is the main reason why Abortion is not even controversial anymore. The alternatives are non-viable.
You have to be pulling our chains. How expensive are condoms and have you ever heard of the “free clinic?”
You always bring up abstinence based education like every pro-lifer thinks that works.
It’s not so much a “penalty” or “punishment” as it is a CONSEQUENCE. If you are irresponsible (i.e. stupid) and catch case of the HIV or gonorrhoea, well that is on you. Pregnancy is another result of sexual intercourse, there is a lot of methods to prevent this.
It’s interesting that pro-murder activists make such asinine claims against those who oppose their malign beliefs.
So it’s “public personality” that defines what it is to be human. Cool, I know of more than a few “public personalities” that could stand to be aborted. See I believe abortion should be good to go no matter how old you are. It’s never too late . . .
Death cults, child sacrifice, and or infanticide will ALWAYS be controversial.
Honest question- if a cure for AIDS was available, would you withhold it from infected people so they could “learn their lesson?”
Does that also fall under punishment… or, ummm… what I guess you call “stupidity consequences?”
Is this really just about punishing evil fornicators?
Having a child is a blessing, not a punishment. Undesirable? Unhealthy sex lives? What an unconvincing argument!
At conception, life begins, with DNA distinct from the parents, regardless of the parents’ intentions.
The tragedy is that our society is so depraved that millions of children were unwanted, and as a consequence murdered. For many, there is more to life than satisfying the self. You, too, may see the light as you mature.
Well I think AIDS was created in a lab for population control. I know, I know . . . tin foil hat and all that. And I’m sure there are cures for various cancers too but Big Pharma has doth declared there is no money in healthy people. As for your question, it’s called Darwinism. Natural selection isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
Why be so worried about saving people with AIDS but be so willing to kill people who still happen to be in the womb. Where is the logic in that?
“Stupidity consequences” = the COLD HARD REALITY FACTS OF LIFE.
Cause and effect.
Sir Isaac Newton put it this was in his Third Law; “For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction”.
No.
It’s about rather or not the murder of human beings and harvesting their organs on a assembly line should be “legal”.