I saw this a while ago and have thought about what I would do in the situation if I were the victim and also if I was a witness… what would you do??? LEOs please provide your input as to what would be the best possible legal way to deal with something like this as the victim or as a witness.
For background purposes this happened on the corner of Las Vegas Blvd. “The Strip” and Sahara in Las Vegas, NV.
if you live in a good Samaritan state, you can blast someone threatening the life of another.
its sort of hard to keep it in perspective after watching the video, because WE have the privilege of knowing he was just trying to act crazy and show off for the camera. but the people inside the vehicle had no reason not to think he was trying to beat his way into the vehicle to kill them all… why the hell else would somebody be smashing his way into your car? so it’s pretty clear cut, to me… even in the must-retreat states, i can’t see how emptying the mag into him wouldn’t have been perfectly justifiable… her only option, in the way of retreat, was to smash into other vehicles or get out of her own, which would have opened her to attack.
He was attacking with a deadly weapon. I would have drawn my gun and warned him against continuing the attack. If he busted out a window and came at me, I would shoot. He was obviously crazy and out of control. I see no reason to let him continue like that.
The guy just made himself a felon by the amount of damage he did to the vehicle, and he is in possession of a deadly weapon. I would step out and draw, give him a cease and desist order and tell him to drop his weapon, IF I HAD THE TIME AND DISTANCE (if not, I must be able to articulate why no verbal direction was given).
Any aggressive move by him at that point gets him shot, center mass, repeatedly until such time as he stops his aggression. Then he gets cuffed and the ambulance is called. Unfortunately, if my aim is any good, he will be deceased prior to their arrival.
Ok…the minute I see him approaching my vehicle with a tire iron I’m going to be using the skinny pedal on the right. If I’m trapped, then we’re going to find out if he can deflect hollowpoints with his crowbar. When the guy heads to the driver’s side with that crowbar any reasonable person in the driver’s seat would have ample cause to be in fear for their life.
Damn crackheads!!! … I’ve walked down that road before when I was in Vegas. I was going from the Treasure Island Hotel to the Stratosphere that is partially visible in the background, I even stopped at the store that is behind him in the beginning of the video. I would have tried to get away but the guy was obviously boxed in. I think I would have shot him when he approached my drivers door with that weapon in his hand. I had something similar to this happen here in Florida … some crackhead came out of nowhere and started beating on my window telling me to get out of my car … lucky for him he never broke the glass and then traffic started moving again and I drove off.
i think trying to hit him with the car, especially in this situation, is unrealistic… there was little room to move, and not really any where to run. not without striking other vehicles, at least. trying to manipulate the vehicle controls, trying not to strike bystanders, and trying to get the car into position to have the proper angle (on a rapidly moving target) and velocity to do anything to him… just not gonna happen. obviously there are situations where that does work, and is a good strategy, but this doesn’t seem like one to me.