These have not been issued. Word was passed to turn our SIG Holsters in 1 for 1 for the G19 Rigs today. Though we’d been told that we were going to the G19 for months no one until today thought it would come to pass.
We have asked many questions but many in the ordnance chain aren’t ones for much detail. Sights are easy to customize but I’m guessing that when issued these will be Glock NS’s GEN 3 G19’s.
I can’t speak intelligently to the P320 but the G19 has had a relatively long “positive” track record with JSOC and as stated previously- no other pistol can match the G19 as far as size & efficiency is concerned, which is the biggest selling point of the G19.
Very interesting, indeed.
G19 has been around 20+ years and does quite a bit.
Blends in pretty much anywhere.
ETA may we ask what kind of holster? Just curious.
Nothing, it’s just that the 19 has been in use for a long time already and is sort of vetted and guys are used to it.
I guess the value of my G19 just went up by a couple bucks at the next gun show.
Solid choice by NSW, the G19 is found world wide. It’s kind of the AK of hand guns.
Safariland and Serpa Rigs are standard in the supply chain. I am not 100% on the nomenclature of the new G19 rigs I will examine them when I’m back at “the office.”
Surely they will send you guys steel factory night sights, but that is what I am curious about.
Again, we have not taken delivery of the G19’s. The fact that other SOCOM Units have moved to this same pistol I would imagine it is the same variant G19 SOCOM wide…again Glock Night Sights, GEN 3, G19. These appear to be stock Glock$ SOCOM wide.
SOCOM pays the bills and the G19’s have already been issued within the other SOCOM Units. If anything we are the last component to adopt it as SF, MARSOC, USAF SOCOM have already made the transition.
Albeit, NSW had to wait out the contract with SIG Sauer. I’m sure the commonality of the Glock 19 USSOCOM wide will be logistically superior and the bean counters will save millions in the age of .mil cutbacks. WTBS, I believe that USSOCOM got it right with this choice. Logistically and Tactically the G19 makes sense and it has had a 10yr+ “shake out” with JSOC and is a known proven factor.
Good to hear. I wonder if the Glock 19s issued to you guys will have ejectors and extractors made out of tool steel and not MIM like some have said. Any ejection issues with the JSOC G19s? I love my G17 and G19, but I do occasionally get brass sent to my forehead with my G19. I have yet to find time to perform the fix by swapping ejectors.
Compared to the P226, the G19 makes sense for you guys for all the reasons listed. I hope they work great for you guys; you deserve the best.
A few years ago I took a class from a then-recently retired gent from NSW who mentioned some amount of preference for hammer fired guns in regards to handling them around the webbing, lines and gear you guys have around. Is it not a valid concern anymore, or was it never a concern?
Well, don’t think the ejectors & extractors were tool steel (strikers may have been), but I have wondered if these G19 get the same MIM treatment a blue label Glock would get. Hopefully Rana can let us know if these differ from mainstream.
I believe these Glock 19’s will be delivered stock. I have 2x personal GEN 3 19’s and one easily has 50k+ rounds through it with no issues. I’m actually waiting for something to break on it but it keeps plugging away.
As far as upgrades, certain things can be done to enhance these guns and I’ve seen some in other SOCOM units with the RMR added.
Only time will tell what kind of enhancements are spawned out of operational necessity. Though I don’t see much need for a whole lot of change to a stock G19…it is what it is.
The hammer fired guns offer the second strike capability…Pistol handling may change somewhat…but seeing how the G19 has already been serving within other units, in some cases for over a decade & through 2 very long wars…I’ve not yet seen an AAR describing any of the issues you reference…I believe they may be possible just not likely or have been mitigated by proper handling TTP’s.
Keep in mind this change isn’t just for the sake of change. SIG Sauer makes a damn good pistol in the P226 and P239, this change has more to do with having a common pistol throughout USSOCOM and saving you the tax payer millions of $$$ while still having the right tool to complete the “mish.”
Thanks for taking the time to respond, Rana. An update once you get one in your hands would also be appreciated.
I took a class this year with a well known NSW trainer, he said the maritime cups were a big selling point with the admirals.
Did y’all swap use all the Eotech lawsuit money to buy some new pistols?
I don’t have a ton of experience around the NSW types, as they weren’t frequent customers of ours like the ODA’s were, but a couple years ago when I was flying on contract in AFG, a lot of the various special guys we moved around had an interesting variety of pistols. Sig, M9’s and Glock 19’s. I don’t think I ever saw a Glock 17 while there that I can remember.
The Glock 19 was especially popular amongst contractors, OGA’s and the atmospherics guys. The ones I saw were all gen 3’s. The only one I personally shot there had tritium sights of some sort.
Interesting to get Rana’s take on the change. Curious to see how the change is received in the long run.
Man, I would love to take some of those 226s and 239s you guys are turning in:cool:
Now to see if Big Army follows suit. Thanks for the update Rana.
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