Granted it is all speculation at this point. But this administration has pursued ban after ban and has openly stated their intentions. So I think we crossed the threshold from “conspiracy theory” into the realm of straight-up conspiracy long ago. I have zero doubt this will be used to undermine civil liberty, and not the dreamed-up civil liberties the left has invented as of late. I see this weakening most of the first 10 amendments.
Like anything else it’s incremental. First it won’t matter, then slowly change over the next 20 years to a total ban on information IF people keep voting like they do. End goal is probably to include alternative medicine, alcohol, explossives, survival, and generally anything else that keeps people off the government tit. I’m sure hate speech will be involved too. But I’m out now, I’m starting to sound like I wear foil.
Whether or not the proposed regulations are genuinely draconian or it’s just a bunch of fear-mongering, who can say?
But one thing is FACT: the free world will breathe a huge sigh of relief as soon as Barry is out of office.
Unless we get Hillary of course.
The problem is that he knows he’s out soon and nobody has any balls to stop him. That’s why I think this is a legit concern.
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Lenin won once.
The wet dreams of some people should make our hair stand on end. History has been characterized as a butcher’s block–and that is too damn true for comfort.
Never say never.
If this is retroactive, KevinB, rob_s, and IraqGunz are ****ED!
Full text of this here:
http ://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2015-06-03/pdf/2015-12844.pdf
For the sake of my paranoia, please do no make this into a hyperlink.
Paste it into a new browser tab. Clicking hyperlinks will tell the site you are going to where you linked to it from.
No reason to alert them even more so than already (although I am sure that each one of us here is on a list somewhere).
I know I sound like a tin foil moron, but in all honesty, I don’t give a ****. This crew of professional, anti-American saboteurs has shown time and again that it will go above and beyond the call of treason to sabotage the American Constitution.
Weaponizing the IRS, ramming through Obamacare and lying about what it was, “regulating” the Internet, smuggling weapons to terrorists, covering up the murder of an Ambassado and 3 other US citizens (ex-SEALS, at that), paying billions to Iran’s theocracy, the list goes on.
I read this document. I am not a lawyer, and whatever the “intent” may be, we all know how it is going to be interpreted and used.
Remember, these are the same people that take “The right of the People” and “Shall not be infringed” to mean that it is a collective (Federal gov) right, and they can infringe on whatever doesn’t fit a magical “sporting purpose”.
The law means NOTHING to this elitist nobility. The law is what they say it is.
You forgot shredding the 4th, 5th, and 6th Ammendments through domestic surveillance. Which, as William Binney has pointed out, has shown itself to be a waste of time, and resources.
$1MM fine? 20years? Well shoot fire, with penalties like that, we’ve got nothing to lose if this regulation goes into effect. Hey Horse-face Kerry, go fornicate with yourself - my 5.56mm N match load is 25.4gr. of Reloder 15 under a 77gr. Sierra Match King. It’s good to 600yds. out of my Colt Match HBAR.
So, fellow frogs, is it just me or is the water in this pot getting warmer?
I am FIRM BELIEVER in wearing a tin foil hat at ALL times. In today’s world it is better to be paranoid and prepared than unaffected and dead.
I wonder why they took the time to reaffirm ITAR now? For one, they are afraid of 3D printers. They are afraid that the 3D printers that are coming will be good enough to actually make gun parts they cannot control. They want to make the 3D printer code illegal. Another reason is obvious, they perhaps see guns becoming more popular and interesting and they want to find ways to stomp it down.
Personally, I think the Feds will fail. Prior restraint won’t fly in the courts.
Thank-you for chiming into the thread. That is about what I figured it was all about. I need less, not more, drama in my life.
When the NRA whips everyone up into a frenzy about “nothing” it hurts all of us…if they are just doing it to raise funds, shame on them. That said, I don’t trust the current administration or its mindless minions any further than I could kick them.
Inconguent statements are incongruous…
I just don’t see this as some dramatic, emotinal appeal in order to whip everyone into a frenzy and dupe them into mailing in their life savings. The proper response is to make reasoned and regular phone calls and emails to the proper representation. The m855 ban was turned back by the grassroots of the U.S. Leading the charge with the help of various pro-gun organizations. This stuff should be well practiced and routine after the Obama years. No drama needed.
No, just because I don’t trust them doesn’t mean everything they do is 100% evil. Nothing is that simple.
I gave two virtually unassailable examples where “reasonable” laws were passed to combat a true scourge, which were promptly twisted into hideously distorted perversions of justice by those who claim to uphold the law. This isn’t an Obama thing, it’s a government thing. The only distinction between “D” and “R” on this one is the target. ![]()
Truth!
Those are covered by ITAR right now (a company that I worked for some time ago went trough procedures to obtain ITAR license to import blueprints from US), so if they want to protect that, no change in law is needed. Maybe just better enforcement.
Ideas are peaceful, history is violent.
Very, very well said.
Whenever I hear some politician/official/bureaucrat/aspiring totalitarian say that no one “needs” an “assault rifle”/“high capacity clips”/handguns, I damn well know that I need those things, and then some.
True. But, like gun control, they always have some noble-sounding stated aim to justify more unconstitutional controls.
Layers and layers of confusing redundant jurisdiction…rolls and rolls of red tape. We should have a Department of Redundancy Department.