Ok. so im in a dilemma. im trying to decide which ar-15 is better.
what im looking for is a high quality ar-15 preferred lo pro gas block ( DD and Noveske have a pinned lo pro gas block which is a big plus for me. BCM is set screwed. Not so hot on the set screws) i do like a hammer forged bbl which all of the above have. I also like a gov. profile bbl with a midlength gas system. i think the noveske has the best bbl because it uses the same bbl steel as the m249 SAW and has chrome lining 2x thicker than milspec for longevity.( not a big deal cause i am not gonna be shooting the hell out of it, but it will get probably close to 1000-2000 rounds per year down the pipe.) I am only 15 so im not sure i have the funds for the noveske, and also John noveske died jan.4 2013 so idk if the companies quality will struggle or if the company will cease to exist in a year or so. I also know the assault weapons ban is a big thing with all the liberals in office. thank God the republicans have the house, but not by a big margin. so my questions were which gun would you prefer ( and what caliber). anyone with personal experience with any company listed or any other company for that matter.and also i was wandering what y’alls opinions were on weather the assault weapons ban will pass or not. My uses for this ar15 will be hog hunting here in the big TEX. and also using it for longish range out to 600yd or so. i would like the rifle to be atleast moa, which i think is where the noveske shines, being able to hold groups around 1/2 moa. by the way: we have a 5.56 suppressor so i am leaning towards that for my caliber choice but im not sure. any suggestions appreciated.
Is this real life?
Um first off. good luck finding anything right now, much less good shit like the stuff you listed. Atleast your not thinking about dpms or something.
If you dont have a 556 gun then its a no brainer dude. I started out with a 6.8 cuz a bunch of guys that thought they knew what they were doing told me that 556 bounces off people and cant kill them. I was a shitty shooter because it cost me a dollar a bullet to practice. and was a huge waste of my time and money. Get the any of the three brands get something simple and shoot the fuck out of it before you upgrade it.
**that saw barrel is sillyness. You dont even have an AR. Why do you need one that has “3 times” the barrel life?
Only 15? so you cannot legally buy a rifle as of yet?
You’re gonna need a stainless barrel, good glass, good ammo and good skill to hold 1moa out to 600 yds.
Buy mags.
Rifles ain’t goin’ anywhere.
You’ll probably get into a BCM for least amount of money, DD and Noveske are a little more, but Noveske’s stainless barrels are tops.
So the only question you need to ask yourself is:
How much is my allowance?
Get all three 
good one samuse. got a job though :). ive literally called over 30 gun stores and no one had any of the nice guns. pmags are running for $40 at my local gun store when they have them in stock. they were $60 and they said the couldnt keep them in stock even for 60. me and pa have a few mags and ar15’s but i just wanted one for myself. even though it would be bought under my dads name. I looked at stainless bbl but idk it it is gonna last as long as i need it too.( hopefully 10,000 rds.) how much do you think chrome lining would decrease accuracy on a hammer forged bbl? also what kinda glass do you recommend? we also are getting a larue obr thats on order in 7.62x51 NATO. so we kinda got the big semi auto area covered with that
At 2k rounds per year, Noveske’s stainless barrel will outlast you.
Learn to spell and capitalize. If you are too lazy to construct a well written post don’t expect people to take you seriously and take the time to hand out advice.
With that said any of those rifles would serve you well. I think some of your “requirements” are unrealistic. Don’t get caught up in the minutia of details and specs. Concentrate on learning safe, responsible gun ownership and marksmanship. It is perfectly acceptable (and realistic) to shoot 2-3" groups at 100 yes with irons or a dot with non-match grade ammo. All this 600 yd, sub MOA talk is bull shit and the vast majority of shooters aren’t capable of that kind of shooting even if their gear is, regardless of what you read on the intarweb.
Good luck.
Noveske is the way to go if you have the money, but other than that BCM will get the job done
I applaud your forethought and taking the time to do some research young man. Well done. All three of those will serve you and your father well. It really isn’t going to matter in a practical sense which one you go with, and all three will be hard to find right now. I say get the first one you can. And then those hogs better look out!
Would it be realistic to get a hammer forged chrome lined bbl to shoot MOA, or would stainless steel be the way to go for MOA shooting. I am a big predator hunter and need a gun for up close and personal shots at hogs in the dark, but i also need the rifle to be able to reach out and touch a coyote at at-least 300 yds, so 1 MOA is truly needed. Because a coyote’s vitals are only in about a 6 inch circle, a 3 inch group at 300 yds is about as big as a group as i’d want to go. I’m capable as a shooter to shoot 3" groups at 300 yards( with a sub MOA bolt action rifle, with near perfect conditions) , but if my avg. group size is 3" at 300 yds and i have a rifle that is shooting up to 3" off from my point of aim, your looking at up to a 6 inch group, which would limit me to 300 yards for coyote hunting.
Based on what you are describing, I’d say a properly built AR with a nice stainless noveske or similar barrel and match grade ammo is the ticket. I feel like you are describing precision shooting needs and not home defense needs here. Keep an eye on the Rainier Arms sight and BCM site for one of their stainless offerings.
ummm… hmmm… ok…
The brands you listed are all good. Very good. This leads me to conclude you did quite a bit of research. This too is good. Look around the sites, check out the stickies. Loads of additional info there for you. If you have something in mind not addressed in the stickies, do a search using the search button up to or google: “m4carbine.net (topic)”.
ETA: seems like you have your requirements pretty narrowed down. SS Will be more accurate but a HF barrel with good ammo will be plenty accurate.
thanks bullet dog :)! How long( how many rounds) on avg. would you say a high quality ss bbl( ex. noveske or larue) would last with moderate fire, not heating the bbl to like 400 degrees.
You would be better off during these high priced,under stocked, semi-auto/AR circus, getting a solid bolt action rifle with a good scope. Those are readily available at fair prices.
google ‘filthy 14’.
filthy 14 is pretty impressive. I am not planning to get this firearm until maybe 1-6 months depending on how the political issues are resolved. I can pick up a noveske 300 black out for 3500 but that is WAY over priced. its almost 2x more than msrp, plus its not even the caliber I want. So is there any recommendations on stainless bbl’s for quality and accuracy. And also, what bbl length do you recommend I don’t want anything more than 22" or less than 14.5". This will be a longer range gun so i would like a little extra velocity. I’m thinking 16" or 18". What do y’all think?
Yup, 16-18 would be good. With the use you describe, it should last you a looong time. check out the threads below, particularly the posts by a0cake.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=111967
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=96571
good to know. It sounds like it should last a good 8-10 thousand rounds for my purposes. That is plenty good for me. Sounds like Noveske or Larue is the way to go for longer range stuff.