Noveske lower doesn't fit with Larue upper

Hi, being this is my first post I’ll give a little background on myself.

I’m pretty new to guns in general but have done a lot of research ever since I was bit. My first gun was a AA beowulf and wow that was a stupid mistake for a first gun :D. I rarely found ammo and didn’t want to reload at the time. I sold it to fund my Remington 700 in .308 with a Nightfroce 3.5-15/50… I love this gun and will never sell it.

Now I have a Larue Stealth upper using a Noveske blem lower. When I first brought the Noveske lower home I tried to put them together and they would not fit at all. It started taking off the finish

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I first went back to where I bought the lower. They pretty much told my me to buzz off without even attempting to mate it up with one their uppers because that would of proved my point. I wanted my rifle for the weekend ahead so I decided to make it fit for myself. I took out my grinder and pretty much cut it to fit. It’s a little snug but where I like it and not that hard to pull apart.

I did take into consideration that it could be the upper and I’m not 100% it’s not but being that its a billet and measured dead on .500 with my micrometer I’m not to worried.

My only concern is that after a while of taking the upper and lower apart repeatably I will wear off the finish on my upper. In the future I plan on buying a pretty Larue lower and don’t want to lose the precision fit I would get from the combo.

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So has anyone here run into the same problem? Any info will be helpful.

thanks

I just tried my Stealth upper on my E series Noveske blem lower, and while the fit was pretty snug they fit together without any finish wear. Im sure if I took it off and on repeatedly there would be some very slight.

You probably just got a combination where the tolerances are too tight to fit together without fitting.

Yeah it was about .002’’ off.

Had it been me, I would have GENTLY taken down the lug on both sides and not the lower- that’s me.

Also, there is no need to worry about upper to lower fit or looseness. It doesn’t impact accuracy at all.

I thought about it but I plan on getting a larue lower in the future. If I did that I would diminish the fit with the future lower.

I understand. But, upper and lower fit means really nothing and has ZERO impact on its’ accuracy.

I know, im not worried about affecting accuracy.

I don’t want a 1800 rifle with slop that I could have prevented. It might not mean anything functionally but why no prevent it?

I understand if this wouldnt bother you but it would annoy me. I’m a fuction and fit type of person.

Alright, maybe I’m being to vague on what I’m looking for.

Is there anyone who has removed the finish on either the upper or lower where they mate and has been that way for years without any wearing issues.

I can see the bare/rough metal slowly rubbing off the upper’s finish… or it not doing that and I’m just being paranoid.

If there are no problems I’ll put off buying the larue lower and buy a trigger or something.

sorry for the confusion.

+1,
I always preserve the receiver on any platform

I don’t grind anything on receivers when they don’t fit. I send them back to the manufacture and get a replacement. I had a Noveske lower that was out of spec. I sent it back to them and they sent me a new one in no time. Problem solved. I don’t bubba fix my guns.

Can you even send a BLEM back? It seems when you buy a blem you know it is jacked up in some way.

Yes, you can. They are cosmetic blems. They shouldn’t fit any different than the standard Noveske lowers. The one I had that didn’t fit was a blem & they just sent me another blem that did fit with my uppers.

Makes sense, I was just thinking it could be the finish is jacked up which can cause wear problems like he is seeing.

As sloppy as your dremel job seems to be, I am sure that over time it will wear some of the finish off of your upper, but yes, you are being paranoid…overly paranoid.

You’re absolutely not being clear.

That sentence reads as “has anybody that removed the finish themselves had any problems with the finish being worn away.” You specify “finish,” there. If the finish is gone, removed by the owner, how can there be wear issues in the finish? There can’t be, because it was taken out of the equation.

Are you actually worried about wear on the metal itself? How could you possibly be, having taken a grinder and intentionally inducing wear on a component that would otherwise not have occurred? The QED on that is that, given the grinder action, you’re not actually worried about it; but then, why the thread about it?

There’s a communication problem (or a pure mental disconnect) somewhere in any thought process in which it appears that a person truly worried about either finish or base metal wear takes a grinder to the finish and base metal of their gun instead of asking a question of the manufacturer(s) with ironclad CS history.

Look at it from this angle: The upper you have now fits that lower, but you’ve permanently altered that lower in such a way that you may have induced the slop you are looking to avoid if you use another upper. Plus, largely junked any resale value on the lower, unless you find the proverbial Useful Idiot. Don’t get me wrong, I have no qualms whatsoever about taking a grinder to something to make it fit correctly, but I would have to be paid to give a rat’s ass about the finish or wear on a metal-to-metal contact area (it’s an entropic universe), and simply cannot fathom concern over non-function-impacting wear on a portion not even visible when assembled.

Pretty, unworn gun = unused, neglected, forlorn, conversation-piece gun, which is a mortal sin no matter how much you paid for it if it’s not purely a collection piece.

Yes! ALWAYS modify the cheaper part. I guess it could be debatable, but an upper is always considered “cheaper” to me.

You can always get a new billet Stealth upper receiver. Yeah, you could get a new lower, but transfer? The work in taking a stripped upper vs. stripped lower and transferring parts is also something to consider.

If being returned directly from the manufacturer, they can ship directly back to your door with no need for another FFL transfer.

Yup, that’s what im wondering

thanks for the input

Even with a transfer the upper is more expensive… 250 ish vs 150 + transfer.

You never know, they still might replace it… I’ll give it a try al least.

I really wanted the rifle for going out with a friends of mine I’m not going to see for a long while. It was worth it to me for the fun we had.

and it looks like noveske will lie to me twice and never fix their POS lower