NFA rifle for self-defense or duty

I only have one NFA rifle: my SBR. It rides around in the trunk of my car along with my plate carrier (with Level IV composite plate, blow-out kit, and 6x30-round magazines) and my helmet bag (with knee pads and kevlar helmet). My agency does not have a Tactical Team, but a bunch of us have been driving around with “trunk rifles” in out POVs for year.

I was wondering how many NFA stamp holders have also relegated their registered guns for use in self-defense or duty/emergency? If so, how does your setup look like?

This is what my “Emergency Trunk Kit” is composed of:

Nice set-up Carlos. Where’s your multi-color propeller hat?:smiley: Scares the sh*t out the baddies! What light mount you running? Thinking about mounting my light in the same spot on my SBR {coming soon, god and ATF willing:rolleyes: }.

I’m currently running a personally owned SBR as my SWAT gun. Depending on what kind of mission we’re running, I carry either the rifle below or one of my M4’s with a Short Dot on it:

LMT / LaRue / Bravo Company :

-Factory LMT Lower / Bolt Carrier / Charging Handle

-LaRue Tactical Stealth Upper Receiver

-LaRue 11.0 rail system

-Bravo Company (www.bravocompanyusa.com) 11.5" barrel (with cut down USGI A2 front sight base)

-Noveske KX3 flash hider

-Tango Down rail pannels

-Tango Down vertical foregrip

-Tango Down Battle Grip pistol grip

-Aimpoint ML2

-LaRue Aimpoint Mount

-LaRue Tactical Rear BUIS

-LMT Front BUIS

-KNS non-rotating hammer / trigger pin set

-Blue Force Gear VCAS Sling

-Magpul Enhanced Trigger Guard

-LMT SOPMOD stock

-Surefire M600 Scout light with clicker tail cap and incandesent bulb

-LaRue Tactical Scout light mount

-Orion Arms Engraving on the lower (info for SBR per BATFE…name, city, state)

From Pat Rogers’ EAG Tactical Carbine Operator’s Course:

Semper Fi,
Jeff

Here’s my CMMG 10.3 medcon 1/7 on Oly lower for duty use…waiting on a can:

My HD gun.

I don’t remember which Surefire model that is. It came with a pressure switch and I have it mounted via Viking Tactical light mount. I’ve been considering replacing this with the new CAA Laser/Light mount.

Good luck with your SBR project and make sure you put up a picture of it in the Official SBR thread once you get it completed!!

Looks like a Surefire 6P. Your experience may vary if you choose to buy the CAA light/laser mount. Every one I’ve seen & used myself allow the lights & lasers to work loose within the mount after time due to recoil…no matter how tight the light was screwed in.

Now you tell me. I have the same issue with the Viking mount. Plus, because it uses three screws that tighten up against the light itself, it scratches teh hell out of the flashlight body. I’ve been using a permanent black magic marker to hide these scratches.

Jeff (My apologies for the faus pax),

Nice SBR and pics bro. I’ve been trying to make one of Pat’s classes for the last couple of years. Maybe next year I’ll finally be able to.

Gunny,

What kind of a can are you looking to get? I just got my tax refund (I know, I’m a few months late) and I have been considering the YHM Phantom.

You guys stay safe!!

No, that’s Jeff. Zak took and is hosting the pics :wink:

Oy!! Post corrected.

I recently started carrying my Noveske CQB in the trunk of my cruiser.

It has a VLTOR VIS II upper, Aimpoint M3 and Surefire M900.

I have an Eagle LE 6mag chest harness with it.

Last time I used it, we had a 6 hour standoff and when I was relieved by the state police tac team I got several complements on the gun :smiley:

If I ever get some pictures taken I’ll try and post them.

Stay safe,

-Matt

I use my LMT SBR as my home-defense gun.

It has:

-Factory LMT Lower, 10.5" Upper w/ cut-down FSB, and Bolt Carrier Group
-LaRue 10.0 rail system
-Noveske KX3 flash hider
-Magpul XT rail panels
-Tango Down vert foregrip
-Magpul MIAD pistol grip & Enhanced Trigger Guard
-Aimpoint ML2 w/ LaRue Aimpoint Mount
-LaRue Rear BUIS
-LMT Front BUIS
-KNS anti-roll pin set
-Specter Gear single point sling (no longer the VCAS pictured)
-Magpul CTR stock w/ rubber buttpad
-Surefire M600 Scout light
-Orion Arms Engraving on the lower (info for SBR per BATFE…name, city, state)

Gunny,
How do those Med-con CMMG uppers run? I’m a fan of the MLGS, and with that short a barrel, would help. I’ve heard here and there the CMMG barrels dont shot worth a damn, and then also heard the shoot great. What Laser Module you using? I’m thinking about using a visible one on my the SBR I’m gonna make when the paperwork comes in. I know they have limited use but I can think on a few for the designed use mine will have.

Anythere question. I dont have my SBR upper yet. Gonna wait till the paperwork clears to avoid trouble, but is it ok or a good idea to have several SBR uppers and one SBR lower, and still have non-SBR ARs around? As long as I didnt mount the SBR uppers on any of the none SBR lower {which I wouldnt}.

Ask Gary Fadden…owner of Al Mar knives about using a NFA rifle for self defense…specifically in Fairfax County VA

Your post is about as informative as Rosie O’Donut!! Could you please be a bit more specific?

In that incedent, while driving with his girlfriend, he ended up being chased by some armed biker gang members in a pick up truck who thought they saw him mess with another member who was riding on a bike.

They chased him down.

He just so happened to have a fully automatic Ruger 223 with him.

Fearing for his life he went full auto on one of the men who was charging at him…droping him like a rock and killing him.

He was charged with 1st degree murder.

The point was since he used a full auto weapon it went to a full grand jury trial, and later he said he would never use one again for defense for if he used any other ’ regular rifle’ it may not have even gone to trial and just have been simple self defense.

If you do a google search with his name…the articles will show.

ken

That being said, I want a full auto damnit

As you wish

http://www.davehayes.org/2006/02/10/the-gary-fadden-incident/

This is probably one of the most relevant parts of the article about the incident. It’s on page three.

“The prosecutor made such a show of waving the machine gun that the judge made a point of instructing the jury that the death weapon had nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not the shooting was self-defense. The jury learned that Gary purchased the AC-556 personally and that it was perfectly legal to possess the weapon.”

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_168_28/ai_112685749/pg_1

I’m a big fan of CMMG since buying one a few months back. The medcon upper is great & is accurate as heck. Even for a CL short barrel. CMMG makes a good barrel & I think they’re the best AR’s going right now. The laser is an Insight Technologies CVL & it’ll run you almost the price of that upper I have. It works great in low light & indoors & for freaking out the mope you’re painting it with.

You can have as many SBR uppers as you want. You can have non-NFA AR’s. Just don’t have a non-registered SBR lower sitting around with no 16"> upper to put on it. It doesn’t matter if you never intended to mount the short uppers on the non-SBR lower. Never place a short upper on a non-registered SBR lower or have an unassigned, non-registered SBR lower lying around with SBR uppers.