Any problem doing the barrel near the receiver so long as the engraving is readily visualized through the MLOK slot? That should meet criteria, no? Spirit wnd letter.
M4 platform.
Not okay.
On an AR-15, the lower receiver is the firearm and that is what must be great. You can engrave it under the trigger guard, you can engrave it in the bottom of the magazine well on the lip.
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I can’t remember reading anything that says otherwise.
It’s an interesting idea: engrave all your short uppers. Then your lower remains clean and you can still put short engraved uppers on pistols should you wish.
Since when is it ok to engrave an AR barrel for an SBR rather than the lower receiver?
Crap. An AR? You are absolutely correct you have to engrave the lower receiver as that is the firearm.
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Presumably you’re referring to the Trust information: name, city, state, etc. You most certainly can engrave the barrel.
S/N needs to be on the receiver.
The problem with putting it on the barrel of an AR-15 is that the barrels and whole upper receivers often get swapped out. I.e. removed.
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Regardless, it’s legal. It’s right there in black & white.
If you swap it with a 16” or greater barrel, engraving isn’t necessary anyway, as it no longer meets the purview of the NFA. If it’s swapped with another NFA length barrel, then that barrel would also need to be engraved.
You’re an NFA lawyer, right?
Yes i am. And I’m going with “what is engraving the actual receiver for 100k and 10 years Alex.”
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It needs to be on the serialized component, i.e. the lower receiver for the AR/M4 platform.
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Exactly. You see it on FN FAL and scars and other rifles where the barrel is permanently mounted to the frame / receiver of the weapon. There’s a reason you don’t see it on AR-15
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Did you read the links I posted?
Do you have any pictures of any AR-15s that have the manufacturer’s information engraved on the barrel?
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[Quote] § 479.102 How must firearms be identified?
(a) You, as a manufacturer, importer, or maker of a firearm, must legibly identify the firearm as follows:
(1) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the frame or receiver thereof an individual serial number. The serial number must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed, and must not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch; and
(2) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed), or placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered or removed. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of this information must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch. The additional information includes:
(i) The model, if such designation has been made;
(ii) The caliber or gauge;
(iii) Your name (or recognized abbreviation) and also, when applicable, the name of the foreign manufacturer or maker;
(iv) In the case of a domestically made firearm, the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the manufacturer maintain your place of business, or where you, as the maker, made the firearm; and
(v) In the case of an imported firearm, the name of the country in which it was manufactured and the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the importer maintain your place of business. For additional requirements relating to imported firearms, see Customs regulations at 19 CFR part 134.[\Quote]
That’s what the OP is asking. If you F1 the SBR, you can put your trust info on the barrel. The lower is already marked with the S/N which you are allowed to use.
If you F1 an 80% lower, then you, the individual (maker?) would have to engrave the S/N on the lower receiver.
Do you any photos of any AR-15s that are currently on the market that have the manufacturer’s information engraved on the barrel?
Okay, if this forum cannot agree, I won’t trust the NFA to agree, but everyone agrees that “the lower is legit”.
Next question:
How will NFA laser engraving look on FDE/Titanium/ODG colored anodizing? Does it just cut to bare aluminum, or is it like the CAGE codes we see on ACOG’s and stuff, and can they do colors other than white, or…?
Edit: nevermind. No need to explain. It’s in the links and an interesting alternative to conventional assumptions.
I think the passage is being misinterpreted in this case and I pointed out where the misinterpretation was occurring. I may be wrong. But I don’t think I am.
This is one reason we don’t see any production ARs with mfg data on the upper receiver or the barrel.
You see it on bolt action rifles. You don’t see it on ARs.
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It is my opinion that you don’t see it on the barrel from, manufacturers because if the barrel is removed, then the firearm is no-longer registered. However, with an SBR, if the barrel is removed…then it doesn’t NEED to be registered or denoted as an SBR anymore, because it’s not one. When the barrel is again placed on the firearm, BOOM! It’s again denoted as an SBR. The barrel is married to that serialized lower, and only when that lower and that barrel are together, is it a properly manufactured and denoted SBR. It does marry that barrel/barrel length and configuration to that lower, is the downside. The upside is it keeps your lower 100% clean, if you wish to swap barrels and flip it or go to a non-NFA friendly area.
This is my understanding and interpretation, but you do this for a living, so I defer.