Newb advice for smoking cigars

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I have a co worker who enjoys smoking cigars and today I decided to smoke my first one. I went to the tobacco shop and bought an ACID 1400cc robusto just off of the guys advice. I got home and smoked it and while I did enjoy the taste of the wrapper on my lips I did not enjoy the smoke. I smoked it while drinking a light IPA and I noticed it somewhat enhanced my buzz.

What advice can you give me to enjoy my next cigar? What should I go with? My guess is something with a smaller ring, this one was a 50 and it seem a bit difficult to get smoke out of it.

I am not planning on making this a routine, just something to enjoy and relax a bit more on occasion.

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Start small, it’s cheaper until you find what you like. Go to a good tobacconist and have them put together a sampler. Don’t worry if you don’t find something, it isn’t for everyone.

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Smoke it slowly, don’t overheat it.

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Dont inhale the smoke:sarcastic:

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" it seem a bit difficult to get smoke out of it"

Did you cut or punch it? Maybe you just got a tight one. Do what Kyohte said.

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YUCK. Acid’s have to be one of the nastiest most over rated cigars in the world.

My advice would be get something like a Fuente Short Story to start out with. Its quite a small cigar, but its also one of the better cigars overall on the market.

Also the Padron #000 series is pretty good. They are numbered like 3000, 4000, etc…

I always suggest heading over to a forum called Puff.com and reading up on things.

Here is their big list of cigars for newbies to work through.
http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/general-cigar-discussion/29252-big-list-cigars-good-newb-starter.html

Eventually you will figure out what area you like. I like strong cigars, big flavors, big nicotine. Lots of people cant handle or dont want that type of cigar.

As far as not having a good draw, could have been the cut, could have been the cigar. I always cut(only about the thickness of the cutter) and take a dry hit(not lit) to see if it draws the way I want. If I need, I cut a slight bit more. There are tools you can use to basically shove through the cigar to create a channel for smoke to flow if you get a cigar that was rolled too tightly.

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I agree, acids are not good.

A robust is probably too strong/robust for a newb also- try some medium and milds. Hell I still enjoy the mild to medium spectrum the most as the robustos have a tendency to overwhelm my palette and I can’t enjoy the whole cigar.

Arturo Fuente and Romeo E Julieta have some very very good medium/mild offerings.

Do as khyote said and find a good tabacconist to set you up with a mix pack.

If you like good scotch, rum, cognac, bourbon, brandy, port or tequila have the cigar with that. Dip the mouth side of the Gar in the liquor it’s fantastic.

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A robusto is a vitola or size/shape of the cigar. has absolutely nothing to do with the strength of the tobacco.

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This man speaketh the truth and makes a couple of excellent recommendations. I can’t stand Acids either but I am sure there are plenty of people that do like them but they are not for me.

Check out puff.com or botl.org(brother of the leaf), you can learn a ton there. Remember, cigars are not cigarettes so smoke them slow and do not inhale.

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Shows how much I know about cigars… Not all that much.

Always thought that was the flavor profile- robusto. Thanks for the correction.

I only know a little and its that I like mild-medium flavor profile cigars, Arturo Fuentes are my favorite. Honey moon was in Dominicana and I smoked more in that 2 weeks than I have the rest of my life I think!

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everybody starts somewhere. There are, as evidence by the picture I posted, a ton of different shapes. I prefer figurado’s AKA torpedo’s, perfecto’s and presidente vitola’s. Not sure why. If there are 4 or 5 different vitola’s(shapes) available in a given cigar, I will always go to the figurado shape. Im not so focused on size although a 46-52 gauge is about where I like to be. Ive got some 60’s, they are big, but manageable. Ive got an 80, its ****ing huge and requires 5 punches of the cap. Havent smoked it yet, its kinda a novelty, although it gets really good reviews. Smaller than 44 or so to me feels real small. Ive got a box of Camacho SLR Corona that are 44’s and they feel REAL small to me.

Strength is all in the tobacco’s. Corojo and ligero tobacco’s tend to be much more stout and full of nicotine. The LFD(la flor dominica) double and triple ligero’s are considered some of the strongest cigars on the market as far as nicotine goes. Lighter strength tobaco’s are the Connecticut stuff.

Lots of reading on the web about this stuff, but with cigars you just have to get out and try a bunch of things. Thats why that list(or couple of lists) from Puff.com is a good place to start because it kind of subjects you to different tobacco types, countries, vitola’s, etc… so you can learn what you like and what you dont like.

Always when smoking cigars keep some sugary item around: candy, kool aid, root beer, etc… If you start to get the nicotine buzz to strong get some sugar in you. Also dont smoke cigars on an empty stomach(due to a side affect of an empty stomach being low blood sugar). Cherry kool aid and root beer funny enough go great with cigars.

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Mr. rjacobs hit on excellent advise.

I’ll add that different brands call their offerings similar names (Churchill, robusto, and etc.) but will have different ring size/length. It isn’t as standard as one may think. More of a guide now it seems.

I’ll also suggest you get a sampler package of quality brands (like from Thompson’s for instance) and then you’ll have an opportunity to see what you like. Much like booze, there are flavors galore out there and you simply have to try them to find what you like.

Also the tool (cigar poker/draw poker) used to basically ream a hole down the center of a cigar when it is rolled too tightly is a useful tool to obtain proper draw. Usually, you’ll never have that issue with quality name brand cigars. Get different cutters as well, the cut can affect draw, heat and flavor of each cigar. Pay attention to how you cut the cigar and how it smokes for you.

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I used a double blade guillotine cutter that the guy gave me and I barely cut past the cap. The head was noticeably tighter than the rest of the cigar.

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Here is one more thing to help out you folks that may be trying things out, liking them, and deciding “hey, I need a humidor”.

Build a coolidor. Skip the cheap wood humidors, they dont work for shit.

Go to Walmart(or wherever coolers are sold). Get you a cooler of a size you think will work for you, buy larger than you think you need. Ive got a 150qt because I buy cigars by the box. It would also double as a cooler for dead bodies in a pinch! Bring your cooler home and stuff it full of newspapers for 2-3 days. This will absorb the plastic smell that the cooler has. Also while at Walmart get a gallon if distilled water and a spray bottle(might have to head to HomoDepot to get the spray bottle).

Head on over to Petsmart and over to the cat litter section. What you are looking for is exquisicat silica UNSCENTED cat litter such as this:
http://www.petsmart.com/featured-shops/exquisicat/exquisicat-crystal-low-dust-formula-fragrance-free-cat-litter-zid36-20098/cat-36-catid-800019?var_id=36-20098&_t=pfm%3Dcategory

Then head on over to the fish filter section and get you some filter bags for 89c.
http://www.petsmart.com/supplies/filter-media/top-fin-filter-media-bag-zid36-23515/cat-36-catid-300089?var_id=36-23515&_t=pfm%3Dsearch

What you have just created is the same thing as a “cigar specific” silica gel bead product that costs ~$30 a pound. You just made 8lbs for ~15 bucks.

I have 2 of the big fish filter bags(about 1 or 1.25lbs a piece) in my 150qt cooler and its plenty. 1 small bag(there are two sizes of the fish filters) will do about 1/2 lb. large bag is about 1lb. 1 large bag per 75qt is about right. So 1 small bag would work up to about 37.5qt or there abouts. Not a problem to have a little to much.

The silica gel cat litter will keep your coolidor at right around 65% RH. Mine has been setup for almost 5 years and it sits rock solid at 65%. Want to know WHY the cat litter holds 65%? Because engineers figured out that the smell of cat piss is held in if you can keep it around 65% RH. Kinda gross, but it works for our purposes.

The other thing you will want is a digital Hygrometer thats adjustable. Lots of these on the market around ~25 bucks. I have the Hygroset. Xikar makes one. Probably a few others. You will want to salt calibrate it before throwing it in your humidor. Take a clean dry milk jug lid, fill it with salt, put some of your distilled water on it(wet the salt, but dont drown it, just saturated) then take that lid plus your hygrometer and put it in a zip lock bag. After at least 24 hours if not 48 hours your hygrometer should read 70%. IF it doesnt, adjust it. Mine has a knob and each click is 1%. Mine has sat rock solid after its initial adjustment for almost 5 years, even through a battery change. I test it yearly.

I watch mine and typically in the summer spray distilled water on the bag/s once a month(air is more humid generally) and in the winter I have to spray water typically weekly.

Thats about a 2 year old picture of my setup.

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If you smoke enough fine, hand rolled cigars you will happen upon one the roller has rolled too tightly and generally you may as well throw it away. Very few cigars that were rolled too tight can be saved, even if you core them out. Throwing away a cigar is a painful exercise unless you are in the shop I used to go to. There, if you got a cigar with an impossibly difficult draw (while in the shop) the owner would advise you to go into the humidor and just get another without charge.

I favored the Padron Maduro 3000, a variety of different Rocky Patels, and I could go on…

Can’t smoke anymore and I sometimes dream of smoking a great cigar. I sure miss it.

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I think Mr. Abraham and I would get along quite well.

I, too, am a fan of the Padron 3000 Maduro (and 4000) and have a small supply on hand. I just got a box of the RP anniversary edition maduros.

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I enjoy everything by the Fuente Family. However if you’re turned off by the aftertaste, or the bite towards the end of the cigar I would recommend trying a pipe and some various flavors of pipe tobacco. I enjoy both cigars and a good pipe, but it depends on my mood at the time.

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OP, ring/gauge size is personal preference and IMHO I’d start off with something with a Connecticut wrapper.

Some suggestions C.A.O. Gold, Macanudo Café, etc.

For a cutter, you can’t beat a punch. Give a nice smooth round hole in which to draw from. No jagged edges.

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Pipes are something to try if you do not like cigars. If you like that you can try the MUWAT kentucky fire cured cigar. Tastes like a good english pipe tobacco.

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You are the second person I have had recommend one of these Kentucky Fire Cured cigars. Think I need to try one.

Spectre is another pipe tobacco cigar. Litakia. I have a box and have smoked 3 I think. Pretty good. My buddy had one with some bourbon and said it was awesome.