The New Zealand Army has adopted the Lewis Machine & Tactical LMT .308 AR-10 rifle as their Designated Marksman Rifle. Last year British Army also adopted the LMT 308 as a designated marksman rifle.
The rifle looks to be a similar configuration to the British L129A1. The differences that I can see are the use of a Leopold 4.5-14X scope instead of a fixed power Trijicon scope, a foldable foregrip and backup iron sights mounted at a 45 angle. This is the first time I can recall a military AR-15/AR-10 rifle being issued with angled iron sights.
The following data was collected by KevinB from KAC.
"SR-25 velocity comparison from a 16" EMC and 20" EMR
16" M110 Carbine
Average Muzzle Velocity (of 10 Rounds) in Feet per Second (FPS) in 16” Barrel M110 Carbine:
Ammunition
Un-Suppressed
M118 LR U.S. Army
2475
Lapua 167 gr.
2465
Lapua 170 gr.
2478
Lapua 185 gr.
2265
Subsonic Lapua 200 gr.
1021
Average Muzzle Velocity (of 10 Rounds) in Feet per Second (FPS) in 16” Barrel M110 Carbine:
Suppressed
M118 LR U.S. Army
2476
Lapua 167 gr.
2485
Lapua 170 gr.
2485
Lapua 185 gr.
2282
Subsonic Lapua 200 gr.
1019
Average Muzzle Velocity (of 10 Rounds) in Feet per Second (FPS) in 20" M110 SASS
M118LR
2556
Lapua 167gr
2624
Lapua 170gr
2637
Lapua 185gr
2410
Subsonic Lapua 200gr
1028
Suppressed
M118LR
2561
Lapua 167gr
2545
Lapua 170gr
2610
Lapua 185gr
2390
Subsonic Lapua 200gr
1025 "
Its up to you to interpret and then answer the questions you may have…personally, I won’t be running anything over a 16" Rock 5R SST on my MWS. A future Rock 5R SS .260 MWS option will be a different story as I will then be going w/ a 20" barrel in all likely hood. I believe all my requirements for a longer range .308 precision piece will be meet with a highly accurate match grade 16" barrel. The Brit’s have certainly already proven this in their use thus far w/ the L129A1s, as denoted by having confirmed kills all the way up to 1300yds.
While discussing this amazingly long confirmed, a fellow member was nice enough to give us a little bit of data behind this shot.
100fps equals at least another 100 yards of fragmentation distance, maybe a bit more? The real difference would be the carbine vs rifle gas system.
Was going to go to the range yesterday to pound some steel out to 500yards- but my newest stick wasn’t ready to take home yet so probably the first week in November.
Actually they have been wherever the Brits have been for the last 150 years anyway. Currently I believe they have 2 (two) infantry battalions so don’t know if this is a large contract or just the idea that another nations armed forces adopted the LMT.
SWEET!!! This reassuring news came out at the perfect time. Trident just got his rifle and I just committed to one:happy:
Trident…PICS!!! Your pics will hold me over until next payday in 2 weeks. I dont think i’ve ever been so excited for a rifle.
I called Buds gun shop to ask about layaway because they had a pretty good price on the MWS and the guy on the phone was very rude and not helpful at all. Regardless, I went to the bank to up my debit card limit (was only 1k/day) and right as i was about to order i accidentally clicked on the wrong Google link which took me to an MWS at a store called Kentucky Gun Co. The price was great at $2,319 and after speaking with a very nice lady named Sarah i put $1500 down.
I have never once heard of this place but the reveiws seem to be good. Does anyone have any experience with them??? Thanks
