I have a couple firearms that I would like to suppress. The main ones would be 5.56 but I also have a glock .22lr conversion that Id like to use. 1)—Is it possible that a .223 suppressor works with .22lr? I don’t see why not but want a confirmation.
Now the ar15s, one is a 10.5" and the other is an 18". I don’t really know what Im looking for in one but would really like to only have to buy one since they are such a pita to tax stamp (waiting a year and all the paperwork). I like the shorter suppressors more than longer since it’d be used on an sbr ask me questions to help figure out what fits my needs and wants and ill respond pretty quicky.
With one can for multiple rifles I don’t think you can go wrong with the SiCo Omega. Multiple end caps for different calibers/applications, lightweight, great warranty, adaptable mounting solutions, short and proving to be one of the quieter cans out there.
It’s generally a bad idea to try and suppress .22s with a center fire can. .22s are really dirty and will jam up sealed cans with both lead and powder. Also, rifle cans are considered far to large and heavy to be anykind of practical for .22 handgun use.
Once you buy one can, you will want another. Between an adaptable .30cal can and a .22 can you cover a wide spectrum of firearms.
If you are suppressing that 18 inch rifle, your arms will really appreciate a lightweight can. Hanging 20+ ounces off the muzzle at that distance isn’t great.
I think most of the advice you will get here would be to stay away from a designated 5.56 can as a first can. With today’s modular cans, .30 makes a ton of sense. You can simply change the end cap diameter and end up with BETTER suppression than you had with a designated can, simply due to the greater internal volume. 5.56 is not exactly quiet with a can (still very loud) so having options is nice (.308, .300blk etc).
My first (and only) suppressor purchase was the AAC SDN-6; very VERY happy with the results. It works incredibly well with 300blk/.308 however I have been using it mostly on a 5.56 SBR. When shooting next to friends with dedicated 5.56 cans, there really is no discernible difference. I’m sure there is a decibel difference if you were monitoring it with equipment, but to the naked ear they all sound the same when we are shooting.
I’ve never believed in buying a .30 cal can to suppress a 5.56, as it is less than optimal for that platform generally due to size. However if you’re on a shoe string budget and only plan to buy 1 suppressor, I guess it may be ok. How often do you shoot .308? If rarely or never, why bother with a .30 cal can? Most people likely shoot 5.56 to .308 at a 10:1 ratio or higher. As I recently heard in SiCo’s last YouTube video, “getting a suppressor is like getting s tattoo, once you have one, you gotta have more.” I really don’t believe in hosts sharing cans, 1 can per host, that is my rule.
Sure fire SOCOM RC’s can be had for $799 right now + stamp and transfer fee, I’d buy one of those.
I’m also not big on the idea of buying a .30 cal can just because, for all the reasons laid out by PatriotucDisorder. If you already have a .308, .300 blk, 6.8, etc. I can understand going this route for your first one, but if this is not the case then I recommend going with a dedicated 5.56 model.
It’s mainly because buying a can for a bigger caliber often means you’re running a longer/heavier suppressor than you need.
Having dedicated cans for hosts works best, but there’s nothing wrong with buying the bigger can and using it for multiple applications. Suppression wise, it works out about the same. The gain in suppression from having a larger internal volume is equalized by the loss of suppression by having an oversized bore. The larger volume often gives you a lower tone, which many people find more pleasant.
But the omega is 14.##oz can with a 30 cal. It’s lighter or as light as most 22 cans I’ve seen also only 7 in long so it’s got the length and weight of 22
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Correct. The explanation is mainly due to considering the 5.56 and 7.62 versions of the same can.
You can definitely buy a Ti 7.62 can that’s lighter than a stainless 5.56 can. The Omega is obviously lighter than many cans on the market, but also comes with barrel length limitations that others don’t.
But a 10" 5.56 8" 300blk and 16"7.62 how much shorter would anyone want to go?
Not trying to come across wrong. I appreciate the feedback and have zero experience with cans so I am just trying to get all the arguments for and against it taken care of
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My advice is to figure out what features are most important to you and do research (which apparently you’re already doing).
I made the mistake of of only considering noise suppression on my first can, so while it was a little quieter than others it’s extremely heavy, long, and has terrible blow back. I then bought a Mini, which was much better in those regards but had issues with muzzle flash, especially on my SBR. So now I mostly use a mid length can that’s great as suppressing noise and flash, plus has minimal blowback and a great mounting system.
So what I’m saying is buy a SOCOM RC for $799, 'cause that’s a steal on an amazing can.
Because of NFA’s PITA rules, you’re basically stuck with whatever cans you buy, so don’t cheap out or impulse buy. If you can shoot friend’s suppressors to give you a better impression of what to expect.
Exactly this, OP. The hive mind that you should ALWAYS buy a .30 cal can is a bit outdated. You have to step back and ask yourself whether you intend to shoot anything but 5.56. Slapping a 9" and ~20 oz. 30 cal can on a gun is the fastest way to turn it into a bench rifle.
One bit of advice I like to give is that you shouldn’t chase DB ratings. You won’t end up with a can you like and will probably buy twice. Buy a can that fits Budget, Weight and Length. In that order. 5.56 is god awful loud no matter how you slice it and at the end of the day, a suppressor is a really cool range toy. So why not make it fun to play with?
And to answer your question, I’m big on Silencerco right now. Their Saker/Specwar K models seem to fit what you’re asking for. YES, they will give you a bit of muzzle flash on your SBR. NO, they are not as quiet as some overblown .30 cal monstrosity. But for the weight, length and mounting systems they should be near the top of anyone’s list. If you can live with the extra inches and ounces, their full size versions of the same models will be a good compromise.
Also, wasn’t there a company recently offering a free .22 silencer with a rifle can? I seem to remember it was a 30 cal can but It’s worth looking into.
EDIT: Also, $urefire. Worth the money, but can they ever be a lot of money. Some of Gemtech’s Titanium cans will probably serve you well and Griffin Armament is new to the consciousness but making a great name for themselves.
