New to NFA: should I SBR both ARs with future anti-gun laws coming?

[domestique]

Currently I have a 16" BCM that I use as my daily shooter and trainer.

I recently bought 2 KAC complete lowers and the plan was to SBR both. One would be a 9” 300 Blackout build and the other would most likely be 11.5” 5.56 or just another 300 Blackout.

With current anti-gun laws coming down the pike, would I be better off NOT getting one of the KAC lowers SBR’d (for the fear that NFA items are registered and recorded, and possibly be the first weapons to be confiscated).

I know there are a lot of assumptions here, but I would hate to SBR two lowers just to have both unusable/confiscated in the next 5 years.

Basically, what would you do if you have one functioning AR, and 2 lowers sitting in boxes?

[usmcvet]

SBR what you want. It is never going to get easier.

[Iraqgunz]

An SBR lower is only and SBR if you maintain possession of the uppers. If something goes down you will be screwed no matter what you have. I wouldn’t be concerned about because that’s exactly what they want.

They want to deter people from buying stuff because they think they will have to give them up.

[WS6]

@Iraqgunz

An SBR lower is only and SBR if you maintain possession of the uppers. If something goes down you will be screwed no matter what you have. I wouldn’t be concerned about because that’s exactly what they want.

They want to deter people from buying stuff because they think they will have to give them up.

As I understand it, an SBR is defined as an SBR. I know that’s weasel-wording, but an SBR is its own firearm, and the upper and lower are registered “as a whole”, in that the upper is what defines the SBR as the SBR. You are right in saying that the SBR is an SBR only if the owner “retains” the upper configuring it as an SBR.

My question then is will this SBR fall under the purview of an AWB, or will it fall under the purview of the NFA that it is originally under, as an item which has been approved by the BATFE and a tax paid for the possession thereof, and thus unaffected by an AWB because it is a separate item—an SBR—for which a tax was paid and an approval given.

Total double-talk, but maybe?

[Bluto]

This is all very up-in-the-air at the moment. My gut feeling is that the new proposed ban will NOT be similar to the old one. I think it will be a little stricter.

That being said, my personal feeling is that ATF handled items will be treated differently. You are correct on the wording, an SBR isn’t a rifle…

Also, if they are seeking more detailed background checks on buyers, I would think they would be OK with NFA owners seeing as how we had to jump through so many hoops the average gun owner does not. Items registered under a trust rather than an individual may be treated differently if this is the case.

Either way, to hedge my bets, I bought four lowers over the last few weeks. With this happening, I SBR’d two of them and will keep two for plain old rifle builds. Can’t hurt…

[Iraqgunz]

1. When my crystal ball starts working I will let you know.

2. If I made an educated guess based on past history I would say you are good. When if doubt consider worse case scenario.

@WS6

As I understand it, an SBR is defined as an SBR. I know that’s weasel-wording, but an SBR is its own firearm, and the upper and lower are registered “as a whole”, in that the upper is what defines the SBR as the SBR. You are right in saying that the SBR is an SBR only if the owner “retains” the upper configuring it as an SBR.

My question then is will this SBR fall under the purview of an AWB, or will it fall under the purview of the NFA that it is originally under, as an item which has been approved by the BATFE and a tax paid for the possession thereof, and thus unaffected by an AWB because it is a separate item—an SBR—for which a tax was paid and an approval given.

Total double-talk, but maybe?

[sveesix]

I would just do one, that way you have a lower that isn’t on some list somewhere.

[domestique]

@sveesix

I would just do one, that way you have a lower that isn’t on some list somewhere.

That’s what I am thinking. SBR one of the KAC lowers, and use the other $200 for my suppressor stamp.

[R0CKETMAN]

@domestique

Currently I have a 16" BCM that I use as my daily shooter and trainer.

I recently bought 2 KAC complete lowers and the plan was to SBR both. One would be a 9” 300 Blackout build and the other would most likely be 11.5” 5.56 or just another 300 Blackout.

With current anti-gun laws coming down the pike, would I be better off NOT getting one of the KAC lowers SBR’d (for the fear that NFA items are registered and recorded, and possibly be the first weapons to be confiscated).

I know there are a lot of assumptions here, but I would hate to SBR two lowers just to have both unusable/confiscated in the next 5 years.

Basically, what would you do if you have one functioning AR, and 2 lowers sitting in boxes?

I’d SBR the BCM and one KAC lower and throw the third in the safe. I’m of the opinion that if there are any changes in NFA items it will be doing away with the “trust” route. I think the “NFA” items/owners in general will be low on the radar as they represent such a small sector.