New Three gun rifle set up

Training Competitive Shooting
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I watched Colds video the other day and noticed they were all shooting guns simular to my Larue Stealth in size. They had PRS stocks and 18 to 20 inch barrels. I thought I would try to change some things around on my Larue.

This is before. Its set up as a DMR rifle and its heavy.

I pulled the scope off and put my Swarovski on it from my Noveske. I also took off the bi pod and mono pod. This lightened the gun up a lot. I then added the hand stop.

I have not shot it like this yet. But doing dry fire drills it did not seem too heavy. I think I will try this at my next three gun match. It offers better accuracy and more velocity than my 14.5 inch Noveske.

I am ordering a Aimpoint T1 for the Noveske and I think I will use it as my patrol rifle instead of my Colt. It feels very light. I will post a pic with the new optic when it comes in.

Pat

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I would loose the BUIS, JPSRS and handstop thing for a 3G rifle.

Otherwise, good gear.

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Thanks. The short range sight is an experiment. I have had mess ups on stages where I forgot to turn the magnification down costing me time. I thought that this would help. Rather than mess with the scope just cant the rifle for close targets. I have not used them in a match yet. The BUIS is not needed your right. I just am using to having them on my rifles. My idea was if my optic went down in the match I could always finish with irons although I would not do nearly as well. The handstop is brand new. I thought it might help me keep a consistent hand placement on the forend. But your right they may all just be extra weight. I need to play with this set up at the range.
Pat

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Get a Drissel or R&R throw lever for the scope instead of the iron sight contraption

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Thanks What is R&R?
Pat

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R&R Racing is a company. They make steel targets,Saiga shotguns and scope throw levers. The lever for the Meopta fits the Z6.
Very fast to switch from low to high. notice in the video…when the two guys come into the box on the stage with the targets in your face with all the barrels and partition walls. What you did not see in the video was the roof top we just came off of shooting 200 yard steel. So as we entered the box…we had to power down and you can see how fast it was done. We both forgot until we fired the first shot. The time we used coming off the roof was for a mag change.

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Cool thanks. I will order a cat tail and I took off the side sights.
Pat

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I won a pair of side irons at a match, I sold them fast over on brianenos.com forum.

If you dont think youll use them again, Id sell them there, JP was out of them for a while.

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I gave them to a buddy who could use them. But thanks. I am glad you posted your vid Cold. Your guns inspired me on this. I ordered a new comp as well after reading the thread on comps on brian enos forums. The S&J customs brake.
Pat

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Ok I took the advice I was given and its done again. Now I just need to shoot it. So cold outside though. I could not bear to lose the BUIS however. I will live the that tiny bit of extra weight.

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I am curious, how do you find the Swarovski eye relief when comparing this optic to other mainstream optics? Speedwise?

I get the advantage if you only shoot 50/100 yds but was thinking about how it performs on multiple targets under 50 yds??

Is the accuracy trade off over speed worth it?

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For me its pretty good. Maybe this will answer your question. I got the fastest runs with it vs my other rifles with reddots, irons and an ACOG at 7 yards doing CQB drills.
Here are the videos.

Larue with Swarovski.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyAJAC1-Ufs

Here is my Noveske N4 with a T1 AImpoint.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi7DKYdU6Q8

5.56 AR’s

Colt 6920 Aimpoint (Flash hider no comp)

TIME

  1. 2.87
  2. 3.08
  3. 2.79
  4. 2.75
  5. 2.87
    Average 2.87

HITS

T1 8A 2C
T2 9A 1C
T3 8A 2C

Total hits 25A 5C

GUN Noveske N4 carbine Aimpoint T1 used.

TIME

  1. 2.69
  2. 3.07
  3. 2.58
  4. 2.58
  5. 2.29 (one shot not fired so I am not averaging it in for the time)

Average time for first 4 strings 2.73 seconds.

HITS

T1 8 Alpha 2 Charlie
T2 9 Alpha 1 Charlie
T3 4 Alpha 5 Charlie (one shot was not fired)

TOTAL HITS: 21 A 8C (one round not fired)

N4 just ACOG (TA33 fixed 3 power)

TIME

  1. 2.64
  2. 2.67
  3. 2.80
  4. 2.59
  5. 2.63

Average time 2.67

HITS

T1 8A 2C
T2 7A 3C
T3 8A 2C

Total hits : 23 A 7C

HITS

T1 6 A 3C 1B
T2 7 A 2C 1D
T3 9A 1C

TOTAL 22 A’s 7 B&C’s 1 D hit

Gun Larue Stealth Rifle Swarovski Z6i set at 1x

TIME

  1. 2.52
  2. 2.59
  3. 2.50
  4. 2.56
  5. 2.69

Average Time 2.57

HITS

T1 9A 1C
T2 10A
T3 8A 2C

TOTAL Hits: 27 A 3 C

Gun Saber Defense AR15 A2 (IRONS)

  1. 2,57
  2. 2.44
  3. 2.49
  4. 2.62
  5. 2.66

Average time 2,56

HITS

T1 9A 1C
T2 9A 1D
T3 7A 3C

TOTAL hits: 25 A 4 C 1D

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What’s the extension on the P mag? I’ve not noticed those before.

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http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=29311/Product/PMAG_18_ROUND_CLEAR_EXTENSION

Nordic 18 round extension. Works great.
Pat

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Thanks man, awesome.