I have wanted to get into longer range fun stuff for awhile.
Picked this up over the weekend for what I thought was a decent pre-crazy price.
I have been looking at the Viper PSTs for an optic but I have been searching through all the info on here and snipers hide.
While I am in Ohio I will primarily be at a range that has the capability to ring steel out to 1000. Whether or not I can do that is a another story. Back home it will be 500 yards of less for now.
The Vortex Viper is an excellent choice. It will serve you well and is a good price to boot.
Its funny how we never traded a little bit of freedom of religion after the Jonestown Massacre.
Thanks. Do you know where Vortex optics are made?
Man.
I was in your shoes about 2 years ago. Start looking for a stock and your Timney trigger.
Even if you’re saying to yourself… the gumby stock and this Xmark trigger aren’t bad… trust me. 
Scope and reticle talk puts my ass to sleep. 
They are made in Asian countries. The razor is Japan. The vipers is Philippines. Crosfire & diamondback is China. That is what i have heard could be wrong. Someone Will correct me if Im wrong.
My neighbor is trying to get me into his 700 SPS Tac with the Choate ADL SA stock and a cheap Mueller optic.
What’s your thoughts on the Choate vs the higher end offerings? I would replace the optic for certain.
FYI, Rem 700 SPS Tac, Harris pod, Choate stock and shitty Mueller 4-14 for $550.
I only have regular access to 200M but can get 500M or so at the in-laws farm 2-4x/yr but for the price I’m having a hard time walking away.
Would there be a significant gain in going to the B&C or similar at twice the price of the Choate?
Thanks,
Harold
The PST should serve you well, this is what I am looking at for a similar project gun… 4-16 will do all yo need… I have heard many say for the money the are comparable to Leupold.
Great score, I used to have one and it was a good shooter. You had said that you were interested in swapping out the stock. I think this is a good thing, but I would recommend that you fire some rounds with the current stock so you can compare with the new stock. This is mostly an educational thing, and I think you’ll be (happily) surprised with your decision. Looking forward to to seeing what you do to it!
My current plan is to put an optic on and shoot as is.
Does anyone have any experience with fixed magnification optics, specifically SWFA?
I was looking at one of the 12,16, or 20x-42 scopes for a starter optic.
Once I make it to the point were the stock could be limiting me then it could become an option for replacement. Is that the correct mentality?
No, it isn’t.
Get a variable power optic with a FFP reticle that matches the turrets.
Replace the stock with something reputable, and have it bedded by a competent smith. I can arrange this if you don’t have someone you currently work with.
Replace the trigger with a timney 510.
Learn from my experience with Timney Triggers. Purchase directly from Timney and have them set the trigger to your desired pull weight. It might cost an extra $15, but its money well spent. Long story short I bubba’ed the sear set screw. Timney offered to repair or replace it. Turn around was only one day. Despite my offer they didn’t want any money, even for shipping. They have my business for life.
TC
I promise you, that you will want a new stock after shooting. With a stock that flimsy you can’t determine whether you threw the shot with bad technique or the stock contacted the barrel and influenced the shot. If I had to choose between the stock or a trigger I would choose the Stock. That thing sucks.
TC
… and you better listen to what the count is saying. I had a student with a sps tac/hogue setup. I could call the shot depending upon how much pressure I had on the bipod, for a total of THREE INCHES of varying POI at 100yds.
I shot my gumby stock for a while. I had to use a teeter totter position on the pack to make sure I wasn’t hitting the barrel.
Teetering the gun to accomodate the stock is less than optimal. 
I really appreciate the information. That is why I joined this forum.
The stock has now become a priority.
I have a friend who is a Professor where I went to college who will help/teach with gunsmithing. He works for Ruger as well with a very nice and well equipped home shop. I appreciate the offer Orkan and I will contact you if something doesn’t work out.
He is letting me borrow an optic while I get a stock. He said the same about the stock as well. It is kind of a disappointment that they leave the factory that way.
Ammunition around here is very hard to find but I managed to pick up 8 boxes of Federal - 168 grain Sierra Match King while on lunch today. Literally the only .308 that had too.
It really is. … and they consider the hogue an upgrade! I’d rather they discount the price of the rifle $50-$100 and throw their normal black tupperware stock on there. At least then it would soften the inevitable stock replacement cost. On the bright side, you will likely have no problem selling that hogue to someone. They go pretty quick to people that don’t know any better.
Yep. I’ve still got mine in a closet somewhere, but they “feel” like a great little handy stock. If they were made properly I can think of a couple of bolt guns that would love one. Sadly, they are not.
I’m still wondering when Remington is going to start selling rifles with no stock at all.
Hell, no trigger either for that matter!
Brownells has bare actions for $450 or so… when you can buy a complete SPS tactical for $650 anywhere. So the dollars and cents don’t add up. Barrel, trigger, bottom metal, and stock for $200? I don’t think so batman. Would be cool to be able to buy a barreled action for $400. That would certainly make starter rifles built right, cost a lot less, with a lot less factory remington parts floating around in people’s closets.
Although that shit makes WAY too much sense for big green to even contemplate.
I bought it from Gander Mountain for $629.00.
Reading reviews I am leaning toward the Bell&Carlson Light Tactical Medalist. On back order currently from MidwayUSA
The worst part is that Hogue makes an over-mold stock with an aluminum bedding block. It wouldn’t be ideal, but by God you could shoot off a bipod with it. Why the hell Remington opt to sell the pillared version instead is beyond me. Especially when the prices are about $30 different.
TC