New PSA Upper Half w/ Pictures!

Today my new Palmetto State Armory upper half arrived. I paid $430. It is the 20" flat top with an FN barrel.
I was never able to find any detailed photographs or information before I ordered, so hopefully this will help people currently shopping.

The packaging was simple, but effective. The upper half arrived completely assembled and undamaged.

The first thing that really caught my attention was how incredibly stiff the charging handle was to pull back. I was a little concerned that something may have been wrong with it. More on this later. (If you’re hanging on the edge of your seat, the upper is fine.)

The first thing I wanted to check, based on prior problems I’ve had with another company (High Standard/Interarms) was that the gas key fasteners were not YFS and that the staking was not field expedient. The staking looks good, and the fasteners are not YFS. The gas key is chrome lined.

The interior of the carrier is chrome lined, too. The carrier is of the full auto variety.

It does come with a PSA logo on the side of the carrier, but the etching is very thin and isn’t really that prominent. I’m glad of this.

The upper receiver has a similar mark on the port side. Again, it is thin and really doesn’t draw much attention. It’s classy.

The front sight base is F-marked. The pins are tapered.

The barrel has a FN logo, followed by “MP 5.56 NATO 1/7”.

The rails on the upper receiver are T-marked, and white-filled.

No idea who did the machining. It does have an Anchor-Harvey Forge mark, though. “M4” is etched into the front of the upper receiver.

Aside from the identifying marking, the barrel has two other stamps. What appears to be a “U” is near just aft of the front sight base under the handguards. Just fore of the upper receiver is what looks to be a “10”- maybe the year 2010?

Standard A2 flash hider, with a crush washer for timing.

The sling swivel pin could have been flattened a little better- but it will hold. I’ll probably flatten it a bit more myself.

Continued, next post.

The bore is chromed, and you can see it has M4 feed ramps.

The handguards have a nice matte texture.

Just a stock forged charging handle. It’s been machined to remove forging flash.

Fortunately, they didn’t mess with it at the lugs like some companies do.

Black insert- the spring is not the new gold kind. (Probably not necessary on a 20".)

Any idea what the little “F” on the extractor means?

They’re using the firing pin retaining pin that is cone-shaped at the tip- makes it easy to slip into place. Little details that make me happy…

The bolt is marked HPT/MPI. This has definitely not been test fired. There’s no indication of a round ever having been fired through this rifle.

Initially the action was extremely stiff when going into and out of battery. At about this point, it would hang up and required considerably force to lock in. I lubed up with some RemOil (It’s what I had handy- don’t hate.) and worked the action about 50 times and it is about right now. Probably just some stacked tolerances making it a bit tight.

Round handguard cap. Makes it a pain to get the handguard on since the tabs are the kind that mate with a triangular cap. If I put them both on with the tab outside the circle, there’s a gap between the handguard. They both won’t fit inside- So they will either cant up, or down. It’s purely cosmetic- but still strange.

Really nice M4 feed ramps. They’re not perfectly lined up, but pretty close.

I haven’t shot it yet, that will probably happen tonight. Overall I’m happy with it. For the price, I definitely can’t complain. If I were to change anything- Triangular handguard cap, little more flattening of the sling swivel pin, and I wish the action wasn’t so tight locking into battery. All cosmetic things as near as I can tell, without having the chance to test fire it yet.

I’ll run a few types of ammo through it this evening and report back on reliability.

I don’t think technical discussion is supposed to be for “hey dude look what I got posts”. Especially 20" A4’s with round hand guard caps instead of triangle ones.

This is a new upper on the market- I am showing detailed photographs of some of the finer points that usually are not included in the descriptions when you buy an upper…

Dont forget the range report, I have been considering one of these for a backup build (not a 20" but PSA).

Lamerbrog, I agree with you dude. That being said, you need to calm the f*ck down.

If all you want to do is post pics there is a pic thread for that.

Not mocking a 20" gun. Just had the wrong hand guard cap.

This isn’t Twitter or Facebook. Your post has nothing to do with AR Technical discussion.

If you want to do a review it would be helpful if you actually shot the gun first. Write ups are ok in AR GD as long as it has beneficial information. As I said look what I got posts don’t do well here.

Please don’t take this the wrong way Belmont, but I find it hard to believe anyone can read this thread and really think its a “look at my cool new toy” thread. He took the time to do a write up on every little detail off this upper, right out of the box. And he even stated that a review was coming after he runs some ammo down the hatch.

As PSA is a newcomer to all of this, the photos are interesting as they point out details that folks will want to know about. Perhaps this thread would have been better in the AR General section, but it wouldn’t hurt to simply ask if it can be moved.

Welcome to the forum, lamarbrog.

MistWolf, you are correct.
The last thread was a real disaster, so he is trying to make it right, only to be hammered on for something totally unrelated to the purpose of the thread.

Belmont, while I agree with you to a certain extent, it appears that he is going to be posting a range report once he has a chance to shoot it. Also, he didn’t start your typical “Yo Man Look What I Done Got” threads, but he posted detailed pictures of a fairly new product.

Edit: Range Report Has Been Posted

Just got back from the “range”.

No accuracy report- I only have about 25-30 yards where I can shoot quickly, and light was fading. That said, at that distance it was hitting the random pieces of debris in the berm I was shooting it.

I fired a total of 68 rounds. Not an extensive test firing by any means- as I said, though, light was fading.

Once I got to my little test firing bay, I realized I had left the oil in the house. Racing the setting sun, I grabbed some Penzoil from under the hood of my car, removed the bolt carrier group, and gave it a good dousing. Flung it off, put it back in the rifle, racked it a few times and I was ready to go.

First, a 20 round NHMTG magazine of IMI M855. Not a problem. Locked back on empty.

Next, 20 rounds of that ATI Turkish SS109/M855 stuff, same type of magazine. No issues, locked back on empty.

I finished it off with a Center Industries 30 rounder loaded to 28 rounds with Wolf 55grain. No issues, locked back on empty.

It shot quite mildly- didn’t seem over-gassed at all. Not a bit of gas eye, even with the eye protection I was wearing being fairly high-cut.

The lower I put it on for this test firing won’t be its permanent home. It has a collapsible stock, with a CAR buffer.

I’ll test fire it for accuracy maybe this weekend, if not it’ll be next weekend.

I don’t want this forum cluttered up with half ass pictoral reviews by people who don’t know anything. Really nice M4 feed ramps? Theres a HUGE lip on that left side.

The pictures makes it look much worse than it really is. They’re really almost perfect- about as much as can be expected from anything mass-produced.

Thanks for insulting my hard work- I know my photography isn’t as good as some, but I do the best I can with what I have. Sorry it isn’t good enough for you, but it certainly isn’t “half assed”.

And people wonder why I have an “attitude”.

Somebody didn’t have his Wheaties this morning. :rolleyes:

No. Its a huge lip, and not from “mass production”.

It is not a huge lip- I have it here in front of me, do you?

… why does the internet hate me so?

Go have fun with it and your victim card. :stuck_out_tongue:

Can we delete/lock this thread, and move it to whatever forum keeps this guy happy?

I’m just tired of fighting over this stuff- this forums takes all the fun out of the hobby. Instead of learning some new information, and having someone appreciate the information I’ve provided- I end the evening upset and devalued.

It just isn’t worth it. I’m not learning anything, I’m not happy… this forum has zero positive influence in my life.

That’s a darn shame. So much golden information, yet so many people who just seem to try make it an awful experience.

Welcome to M4C :smiley:
Don’t take it personally lamarbrog. M4C tries to hold it self to a higher ring than the other sights.
That is all.