so i live in new jersey, and i often go to a range where police train, and many are sticklers for even the furthest stretch of firearms laws,
I know that on my AR i cannot have in any way shape or form a telescopic, folding, or collapsible stock. so far i have found the MAGPUL PRS, but I’m not a big fan, its not a bad stock just looking for other options, any one have any ideas or thoughts that might help? thank you
Why not the standard A1 or A2 rifle stock?
You can have any AR stock on the planet. If it’s collapsible, it must be permanently pinned in place.
There are sully stocks: http://www.thedefensiveedge.com/Sully_Stock_p/sully01.htm
Cav arms makes a nice A1 stock.
I would either run the Sully stock or have your stock of choice pinned.
Get the Vltor A1 length stock, you will be glad.
Forgot about this one. Damn good choice.
I will never understand how people live under commie governments like NJ/CA/NY/CT etc. /rant
It’s interesting how the police are so gung-ho there to enforce that stuff too. /2nd rant
To answer your question, I 3rd the Vltor A1 length stock. Even here in Texas, I looked at that one and considered it.
As others said, a pinned stock of your choice isn’t so bad. That’s what I did when I lived in NJ. I got sick of the BS and moved to PA 8 years ago so I don’t have to sweat their stupid laws any more.
I am also from NJ and have this on mine now.
I’m planning on picking up the sully stock as well and will see which I prefer.
Do you already own one that isn’t compliant? If so, you might want to tread carefully from here and also remember that there are other aspects of a non-compliant rifle that may need to be addressed. Maybe you already know it, but there can also be no lug and it must have a permanently attached muzzle brake. And 15 rounds is the magazine max, of course.
If you don’t already own one, I’d just get a Colt MT6400 myself.
I’d personally just get a 20" Noveske with a PRS stock and call it good. Pinning a muzzle break to a gun just never sat well with me.
I will never understand how people live under commie governments like NJ/CA/NY/CT etc. /rant
It’s interesting how the police are so gung-ho there to enforce that stuff too. /2nd rant
As a police officer “behind enemy lines” I can attest to the fact that 90% of law enforcement officers in this state neither care, nor know anything about the continued AWB law here. Most officers I know are pro 2nd amendment; we see firsthand how well “gun control” works in the cities!
As mentioned before you have a ton of options. Anything from A1/A2 to Sully to the VLTOR to a pinned stock of your choice.
Personally, Im pretty short and I tend to shoot with my nose to the CH, so the A1/A1 and even the VLTOR stocks were too long for me. I got an MOE stock, collapsed almost all the way down [1 click from full] and pinned it. Nice and easy, call it a day.
Find what is comfortable for you because you have choices.
On the topic of NJ cops, I took a small carbine class last summer with 7 students, 6 were NJ State Troopers and then me. 5 of them had HN non compliant rifles
A2 flash hiders, collapsible stocks, bayo lugs and all. All live in NJ and none seemed to care. Now I know that there are different laws for NJ Cops and NJ civilians :rolleyes: but sheesh! LOL
I have only been questioned once and that was by a range officer at Range14 [Fort Dix] because I had a 15/30 round PMAG. Once he saw that it was a modified mag to only hold 15 rounds, he backed the f off…
Don’t you just love it when that happens. :rolleyes:
Have to say that most of the time these days it’s mostly kids running the show. It seemed to be worse a few years ago, but maybe my timing was bad then or just better now.
Like you may have, I’ve been up there when canned Class 3’s are being used. Nobody bothered them, but I suppose it was largely due to the quietness. Even military/LEO’s have to abide by the same no rapid fire rules as the civilians, but they usually seem comfortable and have always gone unnoticed.
yes, I do already have a set up, and the problem is I have already been questioned, i wish killjoy was right, but if that was the case, why was i questioned!!!
also the sully and Vltor A1 stock look kinda, well chessey, are there any normal looking stocks that still fit the non telescopic, folding, collapsible category?
Amen.
Don’t rob a bank with one and I won’t even think about looking for a bayo-lug or an “evil” flash-hider.
But with so many various LE agencies out there your mileage may vary.
Your best option then would be to purchase the stock of your choice and have it pinned at your preferred length.
I also sent you a PM
Thanks
Truth. I would also like to add that if you are respectful towards LEOs at your range and get to know them you will find that most dont give a shit if you are breaking rules like that.