Not a fan of typical HK staple gun trigger pull or the ergos except for the VP9 and HK45. I’ve owned several HK’s through the years, and the grotesque double action pull and long single action reset leave me cold.
HK’s aren’t for me on a whole. The only pistols that have really left a positive impression on me in terms of ergos, and “joy of shooting” through the years is 9mm Glocks, 1911’s and CZ’s.
SpecWired - your timing was terrible in posting this.
I was just about ready to snag a P-07 but my fuel pump just died.
Thanks for the informative post 
I got the P07 out today. I wanted to give it a spin first since it will be my CCW.
As a control, I brought along an HK VP9.
I fed the P07 a mix and match of random loose ammo; JHP and plinking stuff. No issues to report in terms of reliability.
Accuracy was similar VP9 in my hands.
Where the CZ P07 stood out was ergonomics and recoil. The lauded CZ recoil mitigating design is alive and well on the polymer P07. The low bore axis and grip angle make for a phenomenal smooth shooter. The VP9 had much more tangible recoil and felt snappier.
In terms of CCW, the P07 didn’t feel any different than my old G19.
More impressions soon.
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I have two P-09s with all the Cajun Gun Works upgrades. They are the softest shooting pistols I have ever fired. They feel almost like a pellet gun. Simply a joy to shoot.
If you want a DA/SA gun, the CZ is a nice blend of old and new school technology.
SpecWired - congrats on your CZ’s - they look great. Couple of questions:
Thanks!
I’m not the original poster, but I used to own both the 19 and 07. Now I’m known as a “hater”. The 07 stays with me and the 19 is gone.
What the 07 does that the 19 doesn’t is the trigger pull. The single action pull of the 07 is night and day better than the 19. My old 19 was well broken in, being the original gen 2 that I bought in 1989, with over 10,000 rounds down the barrel. Still the trigger of the 19 was crunchy compared to the 07. The 07 has longer reset but that doesn’t bother me at all. The long first shot DA pull doesn’t bother me either as I’ve shot probably as many rounds through my several Beretta pistols as the 19. The DA first shot on the 07 is smooth and light, with the reduced power hammer spring from Cajun Gun Works.
Recoil, to me they’re about the same.
Hand fit, the 07 wins, the 19 is blocky.
Accuracy, they’re about the same, I’ll give a slight edge to the 07.
The 07 is 2 ounce heavier than the 19, negligible.
I like the 07 so much that I also sold my Walther PPQ.
Out of curiosity Sam, does the ability to thumb the hammer while re-holstering make any significant difference to you, or is that negligible? I’ve got two gadgets bought from the indigogo funding for my glocks, but I like what seems like added safety in the P-07 for re-holstering.
Secondly, what holsters are you running for the P-07?
Thanks,
BK
The ability to put the thumb on the hammer to secure is a nice option, I don’t always do it, maybe I should. But I don’t carry the gun in AIWB, only on the strong side, I’m always careful to mind my trigger finger, cover garment and everything else that might come in contact with the trigger. Even when I carried the 19, PPQ and my M&P (which I still have, great gun too), I never felt that I was going to blow a hole in any part of my body.
I use a Winthrop leather IWB, for OWB I use a Blade Tech Eclipse and another Winthrop pancake style leather. You can see the leather owb in the picture below.
IWB:
Blade Tech Eclipse OWB:
Sorry SpecWired man if I intruded in your post.
The G19 is gone, but I’ll see if I can get some comparo pics. All the photos are taken with a Galaxy S6 so it’s good they are turning out okay.
- Not judging or picking, just curious - what does the P07 do that the G19 doesn’t, or what does it do significantly better?
Don’t know if I would put it in that context. The P07 is closer to what I want in a tool. My reasons won’t match other people’s needs. If the Glock works for you, I’d stick with it. I stayed with Glock close to a decade, but prefer the CZ design, handling characteristics, ergonomics, external hammer, Omega trigger system and overall feel when shooting. Every CZ I’ve ever shot is just a real smile inducer.
About the only thing I will miss about the Glock is cheap mags.
Worth noting the only pistol that ever really lured me away from the G19 in the past was the CZ P01. It was lacking in a few areas, so I went back to the G19. The P07 rectifies those areas of concern, and the Glock was retired. If the P07 Gen 2 existed 10 years ago, I probably would never have bothered with Glock to begin with.
You contributions are appreciated. Good info for me as well.
Thanks buddy.
Interesting, you let your 19 go too.
My pics were taken with a Samsung Galaxy S2 , old school 
I tend to use a phone until it dies, then only upgrade to whatever the “almost” obsolete model, it’s cheaper that way
Is anyone bothered by the shape of the trigger on the P-07?I’m very tempted to buy one.
The older generation of 07 known as the Duty, like mine, has a more curved trigger. The current production, like SpecWired’s, has a straighter trigger, less curve. I can’t speak for him or others that have the current generation trigger, but mine doesn’t bother me at all. I never really given it much thought, just pull the trigger and it goes bang.
I like the current generations trigger shape very much! YMMV
I love my FDE p-09, it’s like a plastic duplicate of my now beloved 75. I really would like to pick up a 07 sometime…
I think you’ll be really pleased with both of them. The triggers are decent and really improve with a little bit of work to them. Have done a little trigger work to both my P-07 and P-09, less so on the P-07. Just a little lighter hammer spring at 15lbs and some polishing on the action. P-09 has a short reset kit with extended firing pin and 13lb hammer spring. Have run lots different kinds of ammo through it with no light strikes, even Tula. P-09 sits in a bedside pistol safe and P-07 on my hip. They’re so easy to shoot and shoot well.
What does the P07 do for you that the P01 did not? I have a CZC Protek based off the P01. It is my primary CCW but I am awfully tempted to considering selling the Protek and replacing it with the P07 plus a P09 for the house. $$$$ should break even or better. This is not the first time I have heard this but heard anybody clarify what they thought the P07 brought that the P01 didn’t.
Thanks
The P09 got a function test today. No issues to report after a couple of boxes of ammo, and accuracy overall was above average in my hands.
Though, if I had to use a word to describe the shooting experience: smooth.
You see videos of men like Jerry Miculek and Todd Jarrett, where only the slide moves while everything else is perfectly still. That’s how I felt shooting the P09. It’s super smooth, low recoil even by 9mm standards and generally handles cycling with perfect poise. You do feel confident behind the trigger.
The single action with the safety levers installed is very clean. Being well acclimated to Glocks, I had concerns about speed but to my surprise the P09 trigger was quick and smooth and kept double taps center mass on silhouette targets.
While not true apples to apples, I have no regrets over replacing the Glock 22 with CZ P09.
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Hope this helps.
They are really close in size. I picked up an 07 and just put the first 50 rounds through it. I don’t see my G19 going anywhere. Honestly I prefer the Walther P99 in a DA/SA role. The CZ seems like a fine option, but it does not particularly stand out to me. Maybe with time.
I see your Gen2 P07 shipped with a lanyard loop as well. I just replaced mine quick fast. I could have just cut it off, but it was a test of CZ’s support. I ordered the flat mainspring plug from the CZ’s web store and it was at my door in 4 days. I would say that is a positive support experience in the event I need parts in the future.
P07 vs G19 size comparison
Grip length is very close
Not much difference in slide length
Grip length
Mags are the same size and capacity.
Profile shot
With the Sig 320
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