I am looking for help( not personal Bias) in deciding which 45 to get. This pistol will be used for carry, range and competion. I would like to hear recommendations, I do not want a 1911, nothing against them, just not my cup or tea. Right now my EDC is a glock 19. I have no problems with the 9mm, I just came into some money and would like a 45. Any help or recommendations would be appreciated.
My choice would be either the HK45C or the M&P45. I’d personally lean more to the HK45C, but I’d feel pretty confident with either.
How easy it it to get extra magazines and holsters for the HK 45C, Todd G just did a test with a HK45 pretty impressive.
What do you wanna spend? Do you want a striker gun or Da/Sa?
For me, money was not really a concern. I wanted a ultra reliable and accurate gun with a great track record. I have a HK45c and it has been flawless and is very accurate. I have converted my trigger to the LEM trigger. I also wanted a hammer fired gun.
Alot of others here like the m&p, with good reason. The m&p would of been my second choice, as it is another quality gun.
Even though I have the Hk45c and can’t say enough good things about it, I think a glock 21sf or m&p would be a better choice for you since you are coming from a glock 19 already. The only thing with the glock 21sf is its size, since you will carry it. It would be an easier transition IMO.
All are quality guns, handle and shoot whatever you are thinking about getting.
Magazines and holsters are no problem to obtain. I am waiting on a Raven Phantom and Milt Sparks vm-II. These two holsters IMO are some of the best kydex and leather holsters. You will have to wait though, which is not a problem for me. You will hear some people complain about price and parts availability. In my opinion you pay for what you get and I have never had a problem with obtaining parts,even though I have never needed any. There are a few secondary parts vendors.
Thanks for the help, i was leaning towards either the hk, or m&p.
m&p .45 mid-size…heres a pic to help persuade you!
The M&P Mid-size is almost exactly the same dimensions of your G19, so if you like that size/weight, it might be a good choice.
Or, you could go for the G21SF (or hold fire a month or two and get the new Gen4 G21). It would offer nearly the same capacity as your G19, and soft recoil. The issue with most shooters is the size of the pistol - it is, quite literally, a handful, and, for me, the width of the slide is actually somewhat distracting - kind of like looking downrange over the deck of an aircraft carrier…
The HK45 will likely be most accurate (inherently), but is a lot more expensive, and has a trigger that will be significantly different from your current carry pistol - meaning you’ll need to devote more time to one or the other to get truly good with either.
I’ve also heard good things about the FN 45s, though I’ve never shot one myself…
Regards,
Kevin
Being your EDC is a G19, I’d lean towards the G21 in whatever flavor you want - SF, Gen4, Gen3 etc.
It might be as new/cool as the HK45 or M&P but the fact that the trigger wont be “different”, you can set up the sights identically, and have the same grip angle and overall point-ability means there will be some commonality which may help your competing and EDC practice.
Not that the HK45, M&P or even the FN line aren’t good choices, just thinking that you “play like you practice” why not streamline the situation and make it the same platform…
Id go with the M&P,
the hk45C is a great gun, but it would be even better if they had left two things alone : the sights and the trigger. The trigger is atrocious on a DA pull. The other reason Im not a fan is b/c of the chargable sights…I prefer tritium but thats me. These are things that are both a.) already hashed out and that im not looking to start a debate on, just for OP info
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b.) on a 800+ dollar gun with 30-40 dollar magezines, the sights and the pull should not be an issue.
Now im no M&P Fan either, the stryker on those is good only for about 70k dry fires. On the polymer frames, Im a bit myopic toward Glocks. Easy, always go Bang!, and there is an armorer around every corner, that can do almost anything that would ever need to be done to it with one tool that glock sells.
just my .02, hope this helps
I’ve owned both, sold the HK and have two of the M&P 45c. The HK was nice, but I prefered the M&P.
Both M&Ps have the Apex carry package installed and have upgraded sights. Gun isn’t perfect stock, but can easily be upgraded to your liking. Not so easy to do with the HK.
HK makes great guns, but I just like the M&P better. For what it’s worth, I’m also a big fan of the G19. Both guns are similar in size.
Yeah, you do already know Glock, why not stay with what you know. If you haven’t tried the 21sf, give it a run. They’re more accurate than most people give them credit for and handle really well. HK 45 is time proven, basically an update on the USP with better ergos and the same reliability, durability and accuracy. The M&P I shot was accurate, but had a horrible trigger on it, easily fixable by sending it away Bowie etc. Not sure about durability as I’ve never owned one and I haven’t seen any reliability tests on them. They might exist, I just haven’t seen any. I would shoot all three pistols fairly extensively, then decide.
I wish I would have taken the time to look at the HK 45 (full size) before I purchased the G21 (not the SF), or a 1911 for that matter.
If you already own and shoot a Glock 19, I would say G21SF to keep a standard in arms/platform. I went through the same thing, ergonomically I liked the M&P a little better, but I knew Glocks inside and out and decided to stick with the platform.
I would say for the money I would go with the M&P 45
Then still have enough left over for trigger job of you’re choice.
Their CS is awesome IF you ever need it and can’t beat the lifetime warranty.
Both the Hk and the M&P are excellent options for a plastic .45. Both IMHO have lousy triggers from the factory but that can be remedied fairly easily. They wont be a Glock trigger but they will be more than adequate. You will also need to change the sights on the Hk but you have to do that on a Glock anyway…
The other poster also made a very good point in regards to another Glock so that your manual of arms remain unchanged. I still prefer the other choices in .45 but its a valid point. I shoot multiple platform (1911’s Glocks HkP30) and dont find the transition to be difficult, but if you dont get to shoot a lot I could see it being more of an issue…
Good luck with whatever you choose.
http://pistol-training.com/archives/998
You can read all the updates; that is just a final summary. It’s the 9mm, though.
JMO and nothing else
Just got an HK 45
Very accurate or I should say I like my results from me shooting it.
JMO the trigger is not that bad in single action better than I expected coming from only shooting 1911’s.
I now have a new respect for plastic pistols and I am not easy in my being happy in guns I buy.
Many are happy with results they get at 21 or 30 feet in what a hangun will do.
I shoot at 25 meters most of all my range time so I always seem to get Gov, all steel 1911’s and bomb away.
The HK 45 is not a 1911 but for my needs in a pistol which are
Reliable
Accurate 10 shot groups at 25 yards
Feel of the pistol
HK 45 was money well spent.
I like my G21SF 
I have a G30SF and a couple of 1911’s and I’ve never shot an HK or M&P, but I do like the G21SF.
I have a Midsize M&P .45, it’s been an excellant pistol very accurate, and very reliable, I installed a Apex DCAEK and got a pretty good trigger,and a set of Heinie “ledge” straight 8’s. If I had a HK45 ( I’d love to own one,I’d go with a HK45c)I would seriously consider a LEM trigger, change a couple springs and make it a “light” LEM and that would also address the HK45’s heavy DA trigger.That and some Heinie straight 8’s. Either pistol would perform well, Both are known for accuracy and reliabilty, Really, I’d try them both if you can, The only difference besides one being DA/SA and the other striker fired, is price… That, and I believe the HK45c holds 8rnds to the M&P’s (full & midsize 10) Honestly, you could’nt go wrong with either…