Hey guys I have been tasked with finding the bolt gun for my dept. SWAT team as I am the DM for the team. I am a USMC vet so I am partial to the M40a3 but want to see what others are using in the LEO/competition realm. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Alot of people have told me that Savage makes a good rifle especially with their Accutrigger. I prefer a Rem 700 action with one of Rock Creeks M24 barrels.
My roommate’s and his co-workers use the Rem700 on their SWAT team. They seem to like it.
How much do you want to spend?
I’m issued a Remington PSS/Leupold 3.5x10 and I have a Remington LTR with a similar scope. Both are good but I think I’d rather use the LTR on duty if I was allowed.
yea so far the plan is to build an m40a3 (Rem 700) but wanted to hear other thoughts/ideas. caliber can be anything but 5.56, even though I already have an SPR in that. They want “knock out” capabilities, but any true DM knows the 5.56 round has the capabilities of that.
Budget is undetermined, just have to get the team cmdr.'s blessing
I’ve got $2k in my custom .308
.338 Lapua might be worth considering
For the military, the .338 gives the precision tactical marksman a significant effective range advantage over any .308 caliber rifle, while adding little to the weight burden that every field soldier must contend with. At closer ranges, especially those associated with Military Operations in Urban Terrain (MOUT) that characterize operations in Iraq; and for law enforcement, where engagement distances are almost never more than 100 yards, the .338 offers the precision marksman the capability to defeat targets that would resist any .308 bullet. For law enforcement, the .338 bears examination as an alternative to .50 caliber rifles because most organizations do not require the terminal ballistics of the .50 BMG cartridge, but exceed those of the traditional .308 for positive vehicle stops, defeating hard targets such as brick walls and other situations where the .308 isn’t sufficient, but where use of a .50 BMG rifle might be considered overkill and negatively viewed by civilians or the news media.
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/special-weapons/desert-tactical-srs-338-lapua/
Will you be running a can? If I was building a rifle, I would run a Bighorn Arms action, McMillan or Manners stock, Surgeon mag system, a Huber Concepts trigger (for obvious reasons), and a 20" Rock (or similar) 10 or 11.27 twist. I might roll Defiance should Bighorn not suit your liking.
While the above rifle sings, all else being equal, you’ll not top an AIAE MKII at 20" with an Atlas bipod. Given the opportunity to start all over with I would run an AIAE and not ever look back.
Glass to your liking (and budget) of course, but the it’ll be tough to top a Schmidt 4-16x50 mil/mil. P4 Fine reticle, of course. I might could slum a Nightforce F1 too:p.
The ammo for a .338 Lapua costs too damn much to justify buying a rifle chambered in that caliber for any law enforcement agency other than FBI, DEA, ATF.
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Is that a BIG CHUBBY on the end of that barrel??
planning on running a surefire can, nightforce will probly be my glass of choice for price and reliability, plus most of our engagements will be at or within 150m so 10x40 should be easy enough on the eyes
but damn jpipes, that is a sweet kill-stick you have
That is someone elses that posted here. I was asking him if that was a BIG CHUBBY muzzle break on the end.
No personal experience but I hear good things about the FN line.
My build is a
Rem 700 action with oversized Badger Ordinance bolt knob
Rock Creek M24 barrel with 1:11.25 (5R)
Choate Ultimate Sniper stock
Barrel is threaded for a can with a thread protector
Teflon coated green to halfass match the OD green stock
Badger Ordinance 20 MOA scope base
Trigger is factory stock set at 2lbs. Feels lighter with the teflon coating
Currently saving my pennies for a Nightforce NXS
The surefire QD mount/brake is the obvious choice if you are running a surefire can. If you guys can swing a Surefire can in your budget, I’m hoping that a proper rifle can be built too, along with proper optics.
I am (emphatically) NOT a sniper, but a properly set-up bolt gun speaks to me. I built that rifle with tactical competitions in mind, and it is about perfect for my needs.
The “Big Chubby” is actually a Badger FTE, as I primarily run a can (SWR Omega 300). For thoses places that frown upon the NFA, I’m hoping that the brake is loud enough to get them to change their minds.
Good luck.
I can guarantee you that it is most certainly my rifle.
LOL. I was considering an AAC Cyclone.
We use Tac Ops rifles at out department (X-Ray model).
For law enforcement use, a .308 will be the largest caliber you want to go due to over penetration. Most of your engagements will be under 200 yards, and .308 is plenty for that.
.338 has way too much ass for a SWAT application.
5.56 is probably sufficient in most cases but .308 is probably perfect as it will penetrate barriers nicely inside of 300 yards.
I’m not a big fan of the Savage accutrigger but that’s a personal preference. A remmy 700 is probably the best all around choice for the least amount of money.
i know this isnt high dollar but would you interested in looking at the savage mod 10fcp hs precision? http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/finder/
ive heard they are a very good rifle and with everyone being on a budget today i thought this may be up your alley.