Haven’t seen this posted yet, so here is a ND caught on film at a range.
He was very lucky…
Haven’t seen this posted yet, so here is a ND caught on film at a range.
He was very lucky…
Death by Serpa holster…
That is such a dangerous design… It’s right up there in the competition with the Sig forward grip / trigger activated light combo, for being the most unsafe “tactical” product ever…
Just my .02
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He should have shot the target still, at the very least. ![]()
Serpa was the culprit??
I wear a Serpa on Duty if I cant find my Safariland. The Serpa is not to blame. The idiot behind the gun is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl_c0MMzHZI
And this classic gem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIdGT...el_video_title
Or, how about this doozy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhSCTolAY1w
At least it was shot in HD!
well at least he put the safety back on before he set the pistol down. Looks like it hurt most guys shoot them selvs in the hand trying that drill with out instruction.
It looks to me like a case of trying to shoot faster than you can think. smooth is fast and keep the finger off the trigger till your sights are on target.
Fixed.
Guy comes across as a bit of a goober, but I salute him for owning up, and putting his screwup out there for everyone else to learn from.
After hearing Kyle DeFoor and several other TigerSwan instructors discuss the problems associated with the Serpa, I’d never own one. They also demonstrated how easy it was to foul the release mechanism. Was kind of funny since there were several in class.
Hmmm
To those on some sites that say a 45 is better than a 9 or other smaller caliber cause it will blah blah blah compared to a 9
Shows it’s all about placement more than caliber
Wonder if he was training with gold dot or something what the wound would be like though ![]()
Guess it shows that a 45 don’t clean blow your leg off ![]()
Look at the 2:00 mark of the video where he is describing the incident and showing the holster, it is a Serpa and the motion he is describing is exactly how Glocks and M&Ps ND with that design also…
I strongly recommend that you reconsider that decision. Although ultimately the loose nut behind the trigger is responsible for the discharge, under stress bad things tend to happen with that design more than others…
Again, this is just my .02
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I’d like to feel the same, but he seems a little too proud of it and digs the attention shooting himself is getting. That’s how it comes across to me at least.
operator error
Yeah, I was pretty sure he was using the Serpa, but had the description of the 5.11 in there as some sort of “excuse”?
I’m still a little perplexed about the whole “disabled safety” on the draw stroke.
Dollars to donuts says he had safety off, cocked, round in the chamber trying to get speed at the cost of safety.
The safety off and “rock” on to target come at about the same time when shooting from retention with the 1911 for most people, as I recall.
Posted it last night in the long drawn out “why Serpas are bad thread” but it probably deserves a thread of its own.
he disabled the 1911 safety because he was practicing earlier with the 5.11 thumbdrive but he swapped to the serpa in the actual exercise. He training scarred the 5.11 thumbdrive motion with the Serpa which disabled the 1911 thumb safety. Skip the video to 1:30, he talks about it. Whole incident was a combination of several things. The 5.11 thumb-drive mechanism + 1911 thumb safety seems like a bad idea
Some dipstick over in the AR pictures thread thinks trigger activated lights are good to go.
+1 having your finger in trigger guard before your muzzle is on target is not a good idea as evidenced by this ND.
Which speaks to the flaw in the Serpa design, under stress and speed the trigger finger, which activates the release, ends up in the trigger guard. It is a poor design, an unsafe design, pure and simple.