2 JAN?? 
I had 50 on back order since Nov. (from brownells)
Glad I have a crap load of Lancers and D&H USGI in my inventory with another 20 Lancers on route. Variety is key as the PMag isn’t the mag to end all mags…
Bookmarked so I can follow the outcome. I have never seen that on any Pmags that I own or have used in others guns. I have never seen such a priceless $15 piece of plastic. I still use Colt USGI mags also though. Sounds like a Pmag inspection is in order.
Gotta love those backorders from brownells. Only thing I have got so far was the free catalog…lol Backorder from late Dec.
I’ve been 83.3% happy with my [b]Cammenga EasyMags[/b]. 
I’ve had a few PMAG’s break on me. 1 was driven over twice with a B6 armorered Surburban in Iraq, 1 was dropped 3 times from the second story of our villa on its lips, 1 was shot twice with 7.62x39.
I’ve had over 300 PMAG’s and those are my only failures.
Nothing man made is 100% but I have faith in PAMG’s as far as mags go.
I wonder if this is why Lancer went with the steel feed lips…
This is interesting. I guess I have two questions, One is has Magpul ever issued a recall in regards to cracks like this for the Pmag? And second and probably the most important is what will happen if these become banned? Will they even be able to send us a replacement mag for a damaged one? If they are not able to and they start cracking it is a rather large waste of money. I have around 80 Pmags most of wish are just for future use and I use my USGI mags most often.
Dave
While I can see why you would say Mags are a wear item, I don think I agree. There are mags in service that have been around for decades and still work fine. Sure they probably have new springs but the mag themselves are fine.
[b]Triad Tactical,
First of all, thanks for the feed back both here on the forum and direct.
Second, there were some changes in the molding process last year that corrected the cracking issue. Since the correction there have been a very limited number of PMAG’s with this issue and most have been tracked to heavy abuse.
We have seen around .02% of the mags shipped in the last two plus years returned with cracking issues. Of this .02% we have replaced the bodies no questions asked.
We are always improving our process to ensure the highest quality product, no BS.
Cheers.[/b]
i thoughts pmags were not prone to breakage… what happened to all the videos and testings… ran over by a truck… frozen and shot and thrown and dragged… !!!
The cracks look to always start at the same point, and propogate through the mag body in (approximately) the same path in every picture shown. I think this supports Magpul’s assertion that this was a problem in the molding process. I’m not “that kind” of engineer these days but it is consistent with what I remember about material properties, mechanical stresses, and manufacturing processes.
Nothing is perfect, you always run the risk of getting lemons even several in a row. Somethings just have better odds
Most of the rifles were M16a1 from DERMO. FA FCGs were removed and replaced with SA parts. Uppers were BM 16" M4gery with orig colt BGC and telescoping buttstock. These guns ran great, despite all the Wolf ammo we fed them. There was one RRA, and a factory BM at the start of class. Both the RRA and BM went Tango Uniform after the second or third class and were replaced with DERMO/BM rifles.
Kansas weather from Sept to June. Mid 80s down to the 20s. Nothing feaky. Ice, snow and water on the range for much of Dec and Jan. Range is gravel.
All of the orig batch from Brownells were post recall. First replacement batch were all the same stamp, I think they were 8/07. IIRC the second replacement batch was after they had made a mould change and were either 9/07 or 10/07.
The answer to EVERY “how is x better than x” (and the like) discussions ever.
I vote Abraxas post be added to the intro of “the chart”.
Drake,
Glad to see you have a little time away from making important, cool stuff (T-Shirts and collectible posters). Sorry we did not get any one on one time at SHOT.
My sample is about 200 mags, out of which my failure rate was many times higher than the .02% that Drake mentions. Magpul asked all the questions about how the guns were shot, where the mags were dropped and how often. They did a through job, short of coming to our range for 1st hand info. Cant say I blame them. At some point you reach an acceptable rate of loss on an item, but when its as high as ours, it bears some investigation. My customer service was originally conducted by Nick, who followed up and reached out to me for info and input. When he moved on to another job at Magpul, his replacement was a little less attentive.
I regret not having more time to track the mags and their usage, but I had 16 hours to teach the course, and having students logging round count, number of times on the deck etc, was not within our capabilities.
As I stated early on, I am not here to announce the end of the Pmag as a product, or even to criticize it. I just wanted to share some information with you all.
I am pleased to have learned one thing, either the Pmag breaks or it does not. If it fails, its pretty easy to spot and get rid of.
And one other thing:
The Magpul 556 Dummy Rounds ROCK!!
They lasted longer than any of the three other commercial brands that we used for drills. The induced stoppages caused most of the brass cases to bend and deform enough that they with not chamber or would stick tight if they did. Magpul products kept on ticking. We painted them with bright orange spray to make them easier to find.
Lets hear it for the DUMMIES from Magpul!!
Yeah…
I grabbed a handful at SHOT for the same exact purpose, use it as training rounds…
BTW, it was good to meet you at SHOT.