I have been going back and forth on the major networks the past hour or so. FOX is covering the obvious, CNN is doing the same.
MSNBC has not had so much as a single minute of coverage regarding the Mideast rioting in almost two hours, absolutely every moment of both Bashir and Matthew’s shows have been devoted to bashing Romney.
As unhappy as it makes me to say it, another civil war will take place in America. There is no way we close this ever increasing divide unless any person who votes for obama is vaporized the moment they push the button in the booth. While they may be fellow Americans, I wouldn’t miss a single one.
So much for hope and change. Now we have hate and contempt.
I spent 5 years of my childhood in a civil war. You don’t want a civil war in the US. It would end the USA as you know it today. A civil war would make the war between the states, Pearl Harbor and 9-11 attacks look pale. This country has prided itself in the peaceful transition of governments/administrations/leaders for over 200 years. A civil war will wipe all of that out. Citizens and refugees all over the world fled oppressions in their homelands to seek a new life here. It would be a horrible ironism if citizens of the US flee a civil war for Canada or Mexico.
The last thing I would ever, ever want to see would be another civil war here. Point is that we are likely headed there whether we like it or not. Either that or we peacefully decide to Balkanize, but at some point, just as with the middle east, something will have to give.
Sadly this is already happening right in front of our eyes.
Back on topic, I’m hoping the addition of Blaze TV to DISH network and other pay TV outlets will be a game changer.
Already FOX has become less and less relevant over the years, and it was highly respected when it first started IIRC.
MSNBC is a bottom feeder. I’m hoping eventually their revenues sink to the point that they are bought out by people who realize that the public is tired of the liberal bias in media.
I dont think any rational person WANTS a civil war. But, after now decades of deteriation and continued subversion of the Constitution,
what other options are there? More talk? Then…more talk…then what? We are absolutely living in fuckin limbo in this country. Weve got about a third of the people who absolutely want a much more socialist/communist goverment. Weve got a third who want a much more limited Constitutional goverment. And weve got a third who couldnt give a damn if the sun came up tomorrow. As long as they dont have to stop watching Oprah or sports, they could give a fuck who is in charge.
So…whats the answer? Sam, you say a civil war would end the US as we know it. Didnt the first one make things better by ending slavery? Didnt it teach us at great tragedy how awful it is for brother to fight brother?
SOMEBODY, one side or another, is gonna have to eventually have their way. This endless, perpetual bullshit we have now just cant go on. I says lets have it out now, right now, and whatever side wins, then thats how its gonna be. Everyone on this site KNOWS this government, no matter which party is in office, but ESPECIALLY with Dems in charge, is so far gone from what is intended and meant by our Founding Fathers they wouldnt recognize it at all if they came back to visit. It CANNOT EVER be fixed by voting, period. Our national debt CANNOT EVER be physically repaid, period. It is literally impossible. Whether its the current 16 TRILLION or 100 TRILLION, both of these figures are simply just that, numbers on paper that wont ever be repaid.
There is a quote attributed to Lincoln that Ive tried to find for years now, but to paraphrase, it said that although horrible and heinous, war is sometimes necessary when one side gets to far away from the original intent of our F.F.'s and will not cease their illegal/un-Constuttional actions.
I know Im sick to fuckin death of having worked since age 10, HARD, and seeing the same fucksticks over and over never hitting a lick and still “gettin paid!”.
A real civil war is too difficult since it isn’t regional based, but idea based. There was a thread recently that talked about how the military, especially trigger pullers, are conservative. There are too many guns to confiscate. Lefties are the least likely to join the military or have any kind of force on force ability or desire.
We have spent the last 100 years nationalizing our problems. I think the grid lock becomes so great that states are forced to address the issues that can’t be brought to a national consensus. As the states solve problems, people will stop supporting high national taxes- especially when the national govt isn’t solving problems.
The more they push the progressive agenda, the higher the mountian of shit becomes and the bigger forces to pull it down.
OK, I know the general consensus among patriotic, freedom loving, constitutional gun owners is that we stand ready to feed the gun grabbers and other “domestic” enemies to the hogs. Gun boards (especially those with a “militia” edge)are ripe with Phase ONE (Expose the Bildeburgs, etc.) plans of the coming revolution that will wipe out socialism and restore constitutional representation to “the people.” The logic being once the “citizenry” is made aware of the diabolical plot and awakened we will “throw the bums out” and restore a truly representative government in Phase TWO. After all we have at least 750 men with SKSs waiting for the “marching orders.” And once these fine Americans fire the “first shot heard round the county” everyone will jump on the bandwagon and join the winning team.
Just a couple problems.
The populace has already been enlightened to the problem and they just don’t give a shit. Seriously, Bill Clinton openly wiped his ass with the Constitution on a regular basis and the average Oprah viewer thinks he’s some kind of fucking hero. Hillary commited felony (and probably capital) crimes and was duly elected Senator. I firmly believe you could publish photos of the Clintons having 3 way sex with Janet Reno while negotiating the sale of NORAD systems to China while Osama Bin Laden films the decadence and 54% of the country would still vote for them. Just remember Marion Barry got RE ELECTED if you were about to say it would NEVER Happen.
The average “gun owner” doesn’t even know what is legal anymore or what laws have been passed until AFTER he has been arrested for an illegal configured firearm. he ain’t exactly in touch with anything let alone waiting for “marching orders.” At best the MOST any gun owner will do is occasionally spend $25.00 on a NRA membership every couple of years to help fight the good fight. But don’t ask him to be a annual member every year or give anything extra. After all $25.00 is a shitload of money. You can get a gun “transferred” for $25.00.
As soon as the 37 members of the various militias “open fire” when the timing is right, they will be immediately portrayed as extremist fringe groups and tied to white supremacists, doomsday cults, Mormons, satanists and NAMBLA. NAMBLA will sue for defamation and win. When these patriots are rounded up and sentenced to life for “crimes against the Constitution” the nation will breath a collective sigh of relief. After all these 37 rednecks with pump action shotguns are certainly the GREATEST threat to national security that has ever been faced.
Mr. average gun owner will watch it all on TV from the comforts of his lazy boy in his air conditioned living room on a SONY Big Screen. He will think to himself that gun owners like that give him a bad name. He will feel safe that he owns a pump action shotgun in case he ever needs to defend himself from such terrorists. He has no idea that Congress is currently in a closed door session drafting legislation to outlaw the NEW weapon of choice for terrorists, the Pump Action Assault Shotgun.
You can’t have civil war unless the states secede from the union…Anything up to, and just short of that, is rightly classified as “civil unrest!”
Historically, civil unrest is unorganized bouts of civil violence, punctuated by episodes of looting, pillaging(no shit), and periods of total disregard for most civil law…
So, this November, if Obama and the democratic national socialist party emerge victorious, pay keen attention to how the states(particularly the western states)respond to his dictatorial usurption of your few remaining civil liberties, especially if/when they move to eliminate the individuals right to keep & bear arms…
While I understand how you arrived at that conclusion, I disagree that is how it would likely happen. First there would probably be small, localized public demonstrations that call for immediate action. They lead to marches in state capitals across the country that, if the discontent was at that critical breaking point, would have huge turnouts, especially in some regions.
Well, for what it’s worth, which ain’t much, if we have a civil war or revolotion or large scale civil unrest, I hope it happens in my lifetime vs. down the road for my kids to suffer through it alone.
Otherwise, I’m going back to my TV now. I think the Kardashians are on.:sarcastic:
Alskapopo-
Been voting since Reagan first took office. As for leaving. You woulda been one of the ones telling Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, ect. how they should shut up and bow down, and stop all this talk of freedom,
and this seditious talk of seperating from 'His Majestey".
As for leaving, nah, I think Ill stick around, on the off chance I get to vote"from the rooftops" one day, Ill look for ya, ok?
We live in a republic for which many people have died fighting for our rights to vote with a pen and not a gun. People like you are like kids throwing a tantrum when they don’t get what they want. You get the same chance to vote as anyone else. Elections have consequences we can not simple get made that our guy did not win and threaten violence. Your vote is no more imporant than anyone elses. Also it takes a coward to “vote from the rooftops as you say”. Sounds like you just threatened to kill a police officer in an open forum.
Pat
