It wasn’t refinished. I live in AZ so I’m not terribly worried about it. i would think a light coat of alumablack or similar would be sufficient.
Chris
Thank you, Grant. That is mighty light.
Can you or someone else discuss merits of the battery vs. the light powered unit?
I, for one, have reached the point I hit much better with a RDS or laser than with irons.
Think that a 4 MOA RMR on a 5- to 6-in. Glock .357 would make hitting very easy to 150 yards or beyond; kind of a stockless VSBR. Or maybe a long snouted 9x25 Dillon for a bit extra zoot?
Are there any purpose-built MRDS yet that have a channel milled down the middle?
It seems like a no-brainer as far as BUIS capability to attach a tall/suppressor front sight and be able to pick up approximately the same sight picture at the same height…
I just answered my own question…
Downsides to battery powered optic:
- Have to change the batteries (keep spare with you).
- Much greater chance of failing.
Downsides to light/Tritium powered optic:
- Dot can wash out in certain situations.
- Dot size can be too big for some (smallest one made is 7MOA).
C4
American Handgunner did a “puff piece” about them this month.
They give out free digital subscriptions to anyone that signs up for them so I don’t think there would be an issue with sharing it.
any true speed advantage inside of 21 feet?
do they hurt reliability at all by adding mass to teh slide?
anybody in colorado have one they’ll let me try? 
OK…I have about 5K through mine with no issues at all. Inside of 21 feet you do not need any sights at all unless you are shooting a precise point target like an eyeball, or a part of a bad guy’s body exposed from behind cover. When you need sights, these smoke irons any day of the week.
Take a look at this sight picture. What do you think of that!!??
Another look from different angles
Kinda blows away the “I don’t like them and won’t use them because they do not have back up iron sights” arguement don’t they ;);)
I have been on board W a B.O.H.U.S. (both eyes open Heads Up Sight System) for a very long time.
I have a few ? though if you don’t mind?
How does it conceal in Jeans and a T-shirt?
Is there a good no battery micro dot sight option?
Can I change battery’s W/O re-sighting or resetting anything?
What would it cost to set up one of my CCW’s W a no BATT option as there’s 2-3 besides my G23 I might want to get done?
N.D.
To answer -
1). How does it conceal in Jeans and a T-shirt?
I am 5’10", 185. I carry appendix inside waistband 24/7/365. I have no problems hiding this at all and have recently been in some “non-permissive environments” with this very unit on.
2). Is there a good no battery micro dot sight option?
Trijicon makes a dual-illuminated version that uses tritium and fiber optics.
3). Can I change battery’s W/O re-sighting or resetting anything?
I have had my unit on and off several times in testing and as long as your installation is right you will have no issues at all and return to zero. In truth, you should not need to change the sights more than once a year.
4). What would it cost to set up one of my CCW’s W a no BATT option as there’s 2-3 besides my G23 I might want to get done?
Well…I’d love to be able to tell you and provide links but I am afraid that would probably lead to me being banned since I have not heard back about paying for adspace here yet from the mods. Once they accept my $$$ I would be happy to tell you bro.
I would be interested in a compare and contrast vs the use of the Burris Fastfire. Not in comparing quality and performance. These premium MRDS are surely far superior. But in application.
I ask because I experimented 18 mos ago with a Fastfire on a G19 and found it downright poor for rapid acquistion of the dot ON target in dynamic drills. Now once on - with dot visible on target it was pretty fast. Really slick down a rack of plates. But a LOT of new muscle memory training appeared to be needed for pick up the dot as fast as a front sight.
Perhaps the very tall front sight will help with this. I did not have such.
On another LEO/Mil board I’ve seen this discussed and some experienced this issue as well.
Are these premium models’ dots more easily picked up for the initial hit on 1st target than the Burris?
Thank you very much for the info!
N.D.
Looks like this setup would prevent you from using any holster that featured an ALS system.
Mr. Suarez beat me to that one - the OneSourceTactical options through his site are the most attractive glock slides I’ve seen - especially completed with the LoneWolf slide/barrel packages.
The JPoint, Trijicon, and MRDS are the ones I’m looking at for an M&P, but I’m also curious how the TNVC RDP-II would fare.
Again, as Grant points out, having to replace batteries on a rear slide mounting would be a nuisance, but relying on an on/off switch is no-go for CCW.
Jpoint for using stock sights, otherwise the Trijicon paired with suppressor height sights is the winner, as seen from Gabe’s cowitness pic.
As far as retention, I think I’d be adequately comfortable with a weaponlight mounted holster from RCS or the Peters Spada - the latter would need less modification because of the reduced cant.
ALS would be right out - would probably have to alter the geometry of the ALS to go over and around, OR maybe a modified retention strap and moving the attach points for it forward… right out. Trigger guard retention might work better, though SERPAs would still need significant modification.
I have a Trijicon MRD on mine and to say changing out the battery is a hastle or inconvenience is a bit of a stretch. It takes me about 1 to 1 1/2 minutes every 11 months (have gone longer between changes but I want to be sure it doesn’t go dead). It always holds zero when remounting. I am about to have a .50 GI slide milled for my Glock conversion to hold a duel illumination RMR. I will then be able to let you know how the two compare.
As far as ALS holsters goes mine needed slight modification and it works just fine with the Trijicon MRD. I would imagine the RMR will work as well with the same modification.
MadDog
Does anyone have pics of the different reticles and how they appear when mounted on the gun?
Just taking a SWAG, but it looks like you wouldn’t have much of an issue with the ALS because your optic sits further to the rear than the guns that have the RDS/iron sight set up.