I saw this first on FOX News. What are some thoughts here on this?
http://www.thisis50.com/profiles/blog/show?id=784568%3ABlogPost%3A19633859
This was just the website that had the full video, audio, and court video.
imo,
lots of ways to handle it differently.
I would have especially knowing of the video rolling. 
Guilty, sentenced, justice served. His fellow inmates won’t be in handcuffs.
I’ve been wondering about that camera.
Wouldn’t the officer know it was there? Or are there cameras in place that the officers don’t always know about?
Can any LEOs on the forum speak to this?
I’m going to bet his union wouldn’t allow hidden cameras.
No excuses. Stupid. Sure as heck wasn’t worth it.
Wow, that guy ruined his life for 10 seconds of stupidity.
While I certainly do not condone what that deputy did, the website shows the typical inability of the media to get even the most basic facts straight.
The deputy is a Milwaukee County Sheriff, NOT a Milwaukee cop.
And by all accounts is a good guy.
I’ll have to disagree with that statement. While I think the guy deserves to lose his job, and never work in law enforcement again, I think prison time is grossly excessive.
There are other articles pertaining to this that got his title right. FYI - Most civilians consider Sheriff, Deputies, LEOs and similar to be cops.
The video contests his being a “good guy”. Just because he wears a badge doesn’t constitute him being a good guy nor does it make him a prick. His actions in that video show him to be nothing but a criminal.
If I went up to a LEO, and hit him in the face a couple times damned sure Id receive serious charges. There are also special laws that make force on an LEO a worse crime than that of an average citizen. An assault on the kings men and all that…
LEO should be more accountable for their actions…
+1 on this one as well…no i’m not following you around either 31R…
not the account i saw.
anyone else notice he punches like a girl? 
I’m fairly certain of what I saw on that video.
What I saw on that video in no way would or could I ever construe that as a good guy…
Plenty of other ways good guys handle that situation, plenty
Yup, I noticed those “punches”.lol.
As for people saying he’s a good guy, nah, not buying it. Good men do not assault others while they have their hands tied behind their back. Thats actually quite cowardly.
100% correct
yup, see above
I know about the other articles, I’ve seen quite a few of them. I just shake my head and laugh at websites like that one, especially after reading some of the comments. Wow!
Never said he’s a good guy “because he wears a badge.” Never met this fella in my life…but I did talk to two coppers today, that I have known for years and respect; that know the deputy…they say he’s a good guy…therefore he’s a good guy.
Sadly, no you wouldn’t, at least not in Milwaukee County. There are “special laws” but they are rarely enforced, or even charged.
We are already more accountable than you will ever know…
We did not see what this guy did to be arrested in the first place, nor was the jury allowed to know (probably.) Would anything the arrestee had done prior justified what the deputy did? No it wouldn’t have, but would you still be calling for the head of this poor deputy if the arrestee was a drunk driver? What if he had just participated in the gang-bang rape and torture of a 10 year old?
Had this been two thugs duking it out on the street they would have gotten… tickets.
Had this been a citizen somehow gaining access to a hancuffed prisoner and bitch-slapping him a few times…plead down to a ticket while the officers that allowed it would (rightfully) be looking at departmental investigation/discipline at least.
Had this been a thug punching a uniformed cop a couple times…it probably wouldn’t even be charged.
One dumb decision…lasting all of 15 seconds by an otherwise good guy does not rate 18 months in prison when many-time-over convicted felons would get squat for the same thing.
Should he lose his job? Yes.
Never allowed to work in LE again…sure.
18 months and a felony conviction…HELL NO!
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/86602027.html
[i]A former Milwaukee County sheriff’s sergeant was sentenced Friday to 18 months in prison for repeatedly slugging a handcuffed suspect in the face, an outburst his attorney blamed on post-traumatic stress disorder.
Even the prosector agreed that Scott Krause’s outburst was out of character, but the judge said a prison term was needed to help restore community trust in law enforcement.
Circuit Judge Thomas Donegan also suggested that if the sheriff’s office had had an officer-support team such as the one at the Milwaukee Police Department, Krause might never have reached the breaking point that he did Oct. 16. The team is designed to recognize early signs of job stress and offer peer intervention.
Almost reluctantly, Donegan imposed the prison term, plus a concurrent nine months for misdemeanor battery, as a message to the community that justice will hold law enforcement officers to a high standard. Krause, 38, was taken into custody after the sentencing.
At Friday’s hearing, Deputy District Attorney Kent Lovern played video taken from inside the patrol car, which was parked at the sally port of the County Jail. Ray Calderon, handcuffed behind his back and belted into the back seat, swears and lightly kicks the car window as he says he needs to urinate. Krause opens the door and smashes Calderon several times in the face with a closed fist.
Lovern said while Calderon was hardly a model prisoner, other deputies dealing with him that day showed restraint when he acted up.
Lovern acknowledged that Krause had no prior complaints about excessive force and was generally held in high regard for professionalism and integrity.
“We’re not dealing with a rogue cop here,” he said but added that the case deserved a prison term to reassure the community that police officers’ powers are not unrestrained.
Calderon told Donegan he hasn’t been the same psychologically or physically since the attack and said he’s still receiving treatment for injuries.
Krause, who cried through much of the hearing, apologized to Calderon, his family, the sheriff’s office and the community.
Jay Schrinsky, a psychotherapist, testified he has been seeing Krause weekly since October, and that he suffers from PTSD, brought on by his two combat tours in the U.S. Army. About two weeks before the beating, Krause separated from his wife, the therapist said.
Krause’s attorney, Michael Steinle, said Krause couldn’t even remember the beating because his brain had blanked it out immediately. But when confronted with the videotape, he was ashamed and remorseful and never tried to blame Calderon for provoking him or use union rules to try and keep his job.
Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. said Friday that it was ironic that others would question the lack of an officer support team within his department. In 2006, he invited the Fellowship of Christian Centurions to speak at roll calls. The deputies association sued, and last year, a federal appeals court upheld a finding that Clarke violated the constitutional separation of church and state.
Clarke said that’s made him “gun shy” about trying to establish any other sort of peer support team. He noted that deputies can utilize the Employee Assistance Program available to all county employees.
Roy Felber, president of the Milwaukee Deputy Sheriffs’ Association, said deputies did try to start their own support team, working with someone from the Milwaukee Police Department. He said the association tries to make initial referrals to mental health professionals because many deputies don’t feel confident that inquiries through the EAP will remain confidential.[/i]
18 months is steep. He shouldn’t have to do time in prison. I don’t know if the judge was trying to make a statement or what. A few years ago we had an officer who threw a handcuffed drunk woman on the concrete (with camera rolling). She wasn’t actively resisting and he too had just lost his cool with her. Her face got busted up a little. He got fired and assault charges were filed against him. He plead out was given 5 years probation and his peace officer license was taken away. We still use his video for training for what not do.
18 months? Hell yes. I don’t care what the guy did, he was restrained and defenseless. That officer broke the public’s trust in him.
I appreciate your approach and the way you answered people’s questions without becoming hostile or “us VS them”. However, I will disagree with the consequences of hitting a cop, you’re gonna get your ass kicked and most likely by several of them.
I’ve seen videos, I’m sure we all have, of LEOs losing it and knocking the piss out of someone. I will never fully understand their job, the stress and the BS that they have to deal with but I don’t think it justifies beating on defenseless people. I’ve also seen others get off with a slap on the wrist who’ve committed much more serious offenses on video. Many, many otherwise good guys who aren’t a LEO have made stupid 15 second decisions that’ve impacted their lives in major ways, including prison. The problem here is he’s assaulting a handcuffed prisoner under color of law and we’re looking at the incident, not his past. I think the 18 month deal is meant to make an “example” of him to other LEOs.
As far as the PTSD, if he was suffering from it then he should not have been in a uniform and carrying a firearm.
Respectfully,
Irish~
I appreciate the honest responses for this thread that have come through.
And as I stated in the original post this website was just the 1st on the Google list that included the video, audio, and courtroom scene.
I’m not part of the inner city minority cop bashing scene but I do have serious concerns about LE brutality.
On this forum I know there are a lot of LEOs and military. Why won’t they respond? Why won’t they respond? Why won’t they respond?
It’s maddening. If this is not the type of crime that should put a LEO away for some time then WHAT IS? Maybe he doesn’t deserve it for this. BUT THEN FOR WHAT?
You cannot hide behind the “We put it on the line everyday” factor for every possible breach of criminal law.
What then should a LEO be punished for?