militec is defintely better than CLP on gas rings

i started a thread about militec a few weeks back. basically stating that my gun felt smoother longer with militec than CLP.

i had been using CLP just for it’s corrosion resistance anyway.

before my last range trip i dripped a bit of militec into the exhaust ports.
120 rounds, including a 28 round mag dump, and the charging handle was as easy as ever to pull back. with CLP alone i had had issues with it sticking due to the gas rings being dry and carboned up.

so i’m pretty much sold. seems to hold up to the heat better.

not to say it’s better the best thing ever. but of the lubes i have tried, i like this best.

So, Miltec, CLP and what else?

Also, iirc, Militec requires a prepping process before use. If that is correct, did you follow it? How simple was it?

Thanks.

Is the prep work? Degrease with 91% alcohol, heat parts, apply liberally? I’ve wondered how many ppl really do that. How much heat, and with what do you apply? Hair Dryer or hotter? Is it worth it?

The folks at Miltech were kind enough to send me some on deployment for free to try in the desert. Our operating temps were well above 100 deg. To apply, we coated weapons the night before firing, went out and shot the Enhanced Marksmans Course and considered that sufficient. I didn’t notice any thing unique about the product. I have a bottle at home that I still use to lube, but I use CLP too. There was an unofficial study done on the other site that showed it was not a protector or some other such result - I cant remember. I have it and use it, but 6 here and 1/2 a dozen there for me. I also use moly lithium grease and liquid lube too, so that may make a difference.

i just dropped some in before i went to the range and then dumped a mag once i got there. i guess that passes for heat cycling it. :o

I like militech for its viscosity. I like using it on my lower pin parts as a protective coating but believe it or not, I actually use high end, fully synthetic diesel engine oil on my bolt. Very good heat resistance. Semi-auto and full-auto fired and rained on over the weekend, it was still well lubed and easy to pull back when I got home.
Other high end oils like mobil 1 or better should just fine, I assume but I offer no guarantees.:rolleyes: Im merely speaking from personal experience.:smiley:

i’ve been very seriously considering trying some diesel engine oil.

6 bucks a quart vs 6 bucks an ounce is a plus. :smiley:

I use it all the time. No problems, no issues. Seems cleaner than CLP(as in collecting a lot of the carbon and crap). I defiantely jumped to it because of the viscosity issues and really have not looked back. I was just trying to move to something with better longevity in a harsh environment or run longer with limited amounts.

Never did the hair dyer thing - just applied to clean parts, fired it a lot, basically used it as a cleaner since, etc.

P.S. - I really only use on the bcg or actions on other items. Still use CLP or Shooters Choice on the barrels.

Well, now that youve mentioned it, the diesel oil is also cleaner than militech from my experience.- Will have to test this finding further though. I havent been using it long enough to prove this result.:smiley:

i believe diesel oils are renowned for their carbon absorbing abilities. lots of soot and crap in a diesel engine.

i’m gonna have to pick up a quart of some high end diesel oil and start using it. you’ll get a full report. :smiley:

Cool!:smiley: I use Besco from Isuzu but Mobil Delvac should work just as well, if not better. Mobil 1 might work too, I know people who use it on their diesel SUVs and swear by it.

What do you guys think of Mobil 1 (5w-30 maybe) and thickened with Slick 50 grease.

I’ve mixed a batch and used it some but have not had the chance to run my LMT carbine hard to see how it holds up. It mixes well and turns into a nice thick gray lube. Best of both worlds but thats just me thinking and as I said can’t say how it will hold up.

Tim:D

cool

i was gonna try and find the thickest motor oil i could.
can you store that stuff in a bottle ready to go? or does the grease settle out?

It seems to stay pretty well, I mixed about an oz. about a year ago and it is still GTG.

You have to keep adding the grease until you get the right thickness. I pulled some up in a large hypo needle and it works pretty good.

I got the idea off the Kel-Tec owners group site. My little P3-AT loves it:D .
Tim:)

Hmm… Is it really necessary to thicken it out? try the hot weather type, it should be significantly thicker that the cold weather or hot-cold combi type.
I have the hot weather kind and it’s about 60% the viscosity of olive oil. I use an artist’s paint brush to spread it. It drips and runs initially but it sets and forms and even coat after a while. Might be worth trying without the grease first.
By the way, it could be the way I clean my rifle too! I use kerosene to break up the carbon, which in turn, also degreases it.

I have used and recommended Militec for years - for wet lubes it is the best I have seen

For a grease I use and recommend TW 25B - I have had excellent results from both of these lubricants - and I have seen them used alot and shot hard

Not to say other lubes are not good - just in my experience those two are as good as anything on the market

But always remember rule #1 ; any lube is better than no lube

Followed by rule #2; Most guns will run dirty and lubed - however if you run
them dirty and dry you are asking for trouble

be safe

LAV

do you recommend grease on an AR15?

as a bicycle mechanic, i like grease, but it seems like oil is the name of the game on AR’s according to a lot of people.