. . . to the gullible at Glock Talk.
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13946168&posted=1#post13946168
He has been doing his schtick over there for years; I am afraid the poor signal to noise ratio over at GT has frequently caused it to become a waste of valuable time to peruse…
Anybody going to GlockTalk for serious info on wound ballistics is, well, wasting his time. If Courtney has an outlet on the web, then GlockTalk is probably best.
I just came across the Glock Talk website not too long ago and it was quite by accident actually. I haven’t spent much time there, but there does seem to be a lot of misinformation taken as fact there. Oh well . . .
He says he has proof now, confirmed in human autopsy cases:
Speaking of autopsies, I found some info on another forum that shows links to Co urtney’s prior posts that indicates he believes that that God chose to speak to him about marrying a woman with pink-high top sneakers, that God told him to accept a position at MIT.
Below is an archived message that the post linked to. It starts off as a post by someone else that is quoting a post made by Michael Courtney along with headers and path:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/50d38a25eb99e5b3?&q=michael+courtney
He also predicted in another post linked to the message that the “United States will cease to be governed as set forth in the Constitution” (sadly, he may be onto something there . . .) and that a Dragon desend on American would rip open pregnant women’s bellies:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/bf62c9a9039bcc15
There was a time…
A time when the fella was so in need of validation that he hit virtually every single gunboard on the web. Even gunboards dedicated to states he is 1,500+ miles from. I guess GT is the largest of all the brown noser boards he has registered with, and thus will be his “home”.
“Sometimes, you just have to ask ‘what the fuck?’.”
Well, let him get published in a peer-reviewed journal and actually PROVE his theory.
Let’s not count the self-publishing he’s been doing where they were reviewed by his wife. 
I’m just curious if this purported “Ballistic Pressure Wave Theory” works on wild animals such as bears as well as it works on the study’s Czechoslovakians?
If so, it should put all the endless internet forum questions about what pistol to carry for bear protection to bed. If the truth be told and it works on bears, you only need shoot the bear in the chest with a 9mm and it will shut down the bear’s brain with hydrostatic shock. :rolleyes:
…Pasteur forgot to mention that in the BPW theory the brain injury from BPW is directly linked to the short time incapacitation effects on living beings…that’s the very important thing that the persons who wrote such theory are called to demonstrate…such theory is very old now…lot of years passed…the list of cited studies, mostly about TBI by other researchers, is very long now…but I am not able to find a single study by such theorists capable to provide scientifical evidence about their most important statement…the only one we are really interested…
…I took a first look at the czech document…the MD analyzed only brains of people shot by a single bullet in the chest, where there wasn’t any impact with the spine in order to eliminate the possible movement transmitted by the skeletal system, that died in very short time after the hit, that did not have any impact on falling with their heads or did not have any resuscitation attempt after being hit…I wasn’t able to find anything about the short term incapacitation effects…but I need to find czech colleagues to be more accurate…it seems that the MD is very interested about possibles long term brain maladies because such bleedings…
…after that it’s not clear to me if with the term “shock wave” the author refers to the wave due to the impact of the bullet on the target(…he wrote about “…a shock wave…”)…to the stress waves originating by the bullet’s penetration…or the pressure waves from the temporary cavitation fenomena…
…I don’t know if the BPW theory works with wild and large beasts like bears…but it seems that it did’t work with less wild and much smaller pigs…do you see any BPW “lightning like” incapacitation watching this movie?
http://www.stopanimaltests.com/f-lemasPigs.asp
…to fill such discrepancy I have my own theory…maybe the BPWs travel at extremely reduced velocities in pig’s soft tissues:D
All the best
Andrea
P.S.: as usual…please, excuse me for my bad english.
Anyone going to GT for anything, period, other than treatment for their low blood pressure or for entertainment, is probably wasting time.
That website, like many others, had a period years ago where it had a sufficiently high signal-to-noise ratio to make it a worthwhile resource. Once upon a time - perhaps 5-6 or more years ago and earlier - it had some value as a technical resource on Glock pistols and to get information about vendors. Now it’s not much more than an AOL chatroom with pictures of guns and people blathering whatever comes to mind.
I think everyone worth listening to from GT is now here, aren’t they?
I wonder if the autopsy study cited confirmed that these injuries cause loss of conciousness or motor control more reliably or immediately than a common JHP transecting a major artery (or at all)? “Pasteur” is a sock puppet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet))
Ad hominem attacks are a common resort when the scientific evidence fails to support the mantra of “sole wounding mechanisms.”
Would you say that the forensic pathologists and others who are favorably citing the ballistic pressure work are sockpuppets too?
Fackler [10, 13] however, disputed the shock wave theory, claiming there is no physical evidence to support it, although some support for this theory had already been provided by Harvey [20, 21], Kolsky [31], Suneson et. al. [42, 43], and Crucq [5]. Since that time, other authors also suggest there is increasing evidence to support the theory that shock waves from high velocity bullets can cause tissue related damage and damage to the nervous system. This has been shown in various experiments using simulant models [24, 48]. One of the most interesting is a study by Courtney and Courtney [4] who showed a link between traumatic brain injury and pressure waves originating in the thoracic cavity and extremities.(Historical Overview of Wound Ballistics Research, Forensic Sci Med Pathol (2009) 5:85–89)
The scientific issues are far from settled, but I fail to see how ad hominem attacks are likely to succeed at moving the scientific discussion forward.
For those interested in reading the Forensic Science, Medicine, and Pathology issue referenced in the previous post, it’s sitting saved in my pdf vault and emailing it wouldn’t be a problem. I’ll skim it, but probably won’t get into much detail on it until after midterms next week.
-B
Last time I heard, they used their own names in published papers, not a ludicrous pseudonym to peddle their wares and pat themselves on the back on the Internet. Sometimes the hominem is the issue. If it looks like a sock puppet and quacks like a sock puppet…
Adelaide–certainly the hotbed of modern wound ballistic research…
Quoting yourself to advance your theories is certainly not a way to advance the discussion. :rolleyes:
That is some damn amazing stuff right there… If I shoot a bad guy with a high velocity, large caliber pistol in the heart, there is a great chance that his brain will explode out his ears! Sweet!
Now, let me give proof to how stupid I am…
Even if the theory of the hydraulic pressure spike traveling through the blood vessels is true… there are many, many options for blood to rupture vessels long before this pressure spike made it up and into the brain. Plus there is the fact that blood vessels (as known to me any ways, remember… I’m just an stupid guy.) are NOT hard/rigid and thus the entire travel path of the pressure spike would effectively expand the vessels relative to the pressure change and reduce the pressure. The further this pressure anomaly traveled, the more ruptures (closest to the bullet entry point would be most likely) and the more expansion of various vessels would facilitating in elliminating any far reaching damage outside of the near/direct area of the original pressure pulse.
I could be wrong, but for some reason I’m personally not wrapping my mind around his…um… theory.
I’m with ya. Here’s some more food for thought. Everyday, health care providers across this country perform successful resuscitations of cardiac arrest patients. When done correctly during CPR, chest compressions are done with such force that they can compress the chest cavity by nearly ½ of its original depth. The chest compressions create such a real and high enough pressure wave that blood is circulated throughout the body, palpable pulses are generated and arterial blood pressures can be measured and recorded.
Even when performed perfectly correctly, chest compressions are done with such force that ribs can be snapped like popsicle sticks, the sternum can be fractured and separated from the ribs and the liver and spleen can be lacerated AND YET, NO TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY OCCURS from the pressure waves generated during CPR.