Sorry, to clarify he did not come over the fence physically.
He just looked over it.
There absolutely would have been a different outcome had he been physically in my yard.
Dude you live next door to cartman.
Not sure if your state will allow it but in NC you can go swear to your own warrants ( misdeanor ), however he will likely be out in no time as I am sure his mom will post his bond. I hate to say it but it may get worse before it gets better. Neighbor disputes are nasty business.
Report it. I know it’s a pain in the behind, you will need the paper trail if this goes even further south than it already has.
I’m wondering with his outbursts and lack of self control being so obvious, how is Mom dealing with this and does she sometimes face the brunt of this physically?
The problem with reporting it at this point is it is he said he said.i know how LE handles these sorts of issues and it seems like a waste of everyone’s time at this point.
I have no proof. And once LE talks to this dude all bets are off as to what may happen. Mom is obviously an enabler. She might be just as nuts as he is.
I don’t mean this in an instigative manner, but whenever faced with the decision to call LE I think to myself “What would JDub or CGrunt do if they responded? Could he do anything? Would he be pissed at me for calling?”
If the answers are yea, I don’t call.
See if the other neighbors you talked to would call in at the same time you do. Several complaints at once will get a better response. Call it some kinda of domestic dispute and tell the dispatch operator what you hear.
Even if the cops do nothing, at least there will be a record of complaints of the situation escalates.
At this point I think the only alert is a camera outside with sound.
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Why not just ask the next local Cop you see?
I don’t think it would be a bad idea to explain the situation to one of your local LEO’s and explain your concerns. You’re not committed to filing a report, just asking a Cop for some friendly advice on how to deal with this.
Probably better to state upfront, “I’m really hesitant to call because I don’t want to waste your time or cause any further issues.” Gives you a chance to test the water before you commit.
The whole idea if this guy being willing to do a “Kilroy was here” over my back fence is kinda creepy.
Euro, I have been following this thread from time to time and this recent situation has me really worried for you bud. I know you don’t want to have hurt this kid/young guy but all indicators to me show this going from 20 to 100 real quick. If it were me I would have to explain what is taking place to the police if not the DA. In this new world of see something say something I would think the DA would take this a little more serious. I would make it very well know to them that any harm that comes to your family or the event you are put into a position lethal force is required will be because of their negligence to act accordingly.
Maybe the DA can issue a court order to have this kid undergo a psych evaluation if enough of your neighbors and yourself get together and make it happen. Someone having to die or suffer serious injury is too late.
Maybe these suggestions are not even an option but with the current state of the situation I see this one going bad and soon.
I pray for you bud.
Murph
This, exactly.
Dude, get a paper trail going. By any means necessary.
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This is it.
In today’s world it does not matter who is right or wrong about anything. It is all about who can play the system the best. Start to play or you are going to wake up and find out that you lost loose big time.
The mother has to know the system. She has probably gone through this before, I am sure she has if he is that nuts. If you go to far and say the wrong thing I am sure she WILL call the police on you and bring up the time your dog was barking loudly and YOU started to cuss at her son who a ask you to quite him down…you will be the trouble maker.
Prior to Sandy Hook I probably would have just ignored it and kept out of their business.
Now I would wonder if I was living next to Adam Lanza and his mother?
I honestly don’t know what you should do or what I would do in your situation but I would feel absolutely horrible if this d-bag does do something and I knew he was a ticking time bomb and I thought everyone else knew but found out later that no one ever notified people who could do something and either get him help or stop him from doing something.
Most serial killer/sociopaths/psychopaths start out torturing animals.
I definitely wouldn’t be without a weapon on me at all times.
Be careful.
It is, until you’re evaluating it as mental/psychiatric issue involved interactions - at which point making any direct personal interaction is just setting yourself up to be in the middle of somebody else’s addled off-the-meds shitstorm. It doesn’t matter how much the OP gets it right, from what everybody else here can see it’s something neither of the other parties are likely to respond positively and sensibly to. “Still a kid” my ass - anybody over the age of 10 who hasn’t discovered empathy for animals is somebody I no longer hold an expectation to interact with on any intellectual level.
Use impartial authorities and document what you can without getting really directly involved. I know it would be preferable to just ‘handle it’, but this sounds like one of things that doesn’t get handled, just ends up as a ‘play games with stupid people, win stupid prizes’ kind of events. Having to watch an innocent animal harmed is already past that line, but since you won’t be the one with the authority to to commit that dude to the sort of psychiatric help he will need, start the ball rolling with the police force is the first step in doing that.
Kudos to having an excellent level of restraint. If I would have seen a dude punching a dog in the face like that, I would have curb stomped him. No shit.
This. I had a problem a little over a year ago (have since moved) with a neighbor and noisy dogs. The dogs were obviously neglected, too. I wasn’t dealing with a crazy person like you are, but I did have to deal with a non-English speaker (Mexican immigrant, it’s San Diego) which made resolving the issue one-on-one/in-person more difficult. It wasn’t until I enlisted the help of surrounding neighbors with noise complaints, etc. that the hammer began to fall. If you have some consensus that it’s a neighborhood issue and not just a personal one, city authorities will respond. Get neighbors involved and file a joint complaint - that way it’s coming from the neighborhood in general and not singling you out as the complainant. I’d also let the neighbors you trust know about this guy’s threat to you and your family. That’s serious and would compel any reasonable person to act with/join a complaint.
Report the incident, GET A CASE NUMBER. This way it is on record. Just tell the truth, at first you weren’t gonna report it but the more you thought about it the more concerned you became.
I’m willing to bet ANYTHING he will try and kill your dog at the first opportunity. You have a real problem.
I’d go in and talk to your local police chief/captain/commander, who ever is in charge. Explain the situation, be polite, and express that you don’t wish to be a problem, your just not sure what the hell to do.
You may be very surprised what you’ll learn, solve, our they may even have something that you never even though of.
It works, I promise. I’ve have done this with the sheriff’s before. You’d be amazed at how much agency’s like to fix problems before they even escalate.
Mental issues are about the worst kind. I can’t remember but have you talked to the kids mom?
it wont do anything ? sure its he said you said but its he said HE IS GOING TO KILL YOU !!!
its now on record he has made threats if anything happens at least its there and if it has happened before with him it would come up
what if he does go nuts and kills your dog or you or someone or another pet ? but the reality would then be OK this guy had a history of threatening vs OH he was a great boy never got in trouble before !
I agree with this. They will appreciate your help and may also have intel to share with you. I would highlight the fact he is unstable at best and name drop Lanza.
Best piece of advice I can give you is get a dropcam or samsung smartcam in your backyard that can monitor video and also sound. If things go south and attempted to be thrown back on you, video wins. Hold your temper, get as much intel as you can, create a coalition with your neighbors, and be armed at all times.
Good luck man. I have been there and it SUCKS but I think cbx is right; you can work the LE angle strategically without the kid/mom knowing and let LE know you are there to help.
Does anyone have suggestions on cameras with long storage capacities for video and sound?
dropcam or samsung smartcam