I’m just happy you see the hypocrisy.
Just another witch hunt.
He was not resisting arrest. He was resisting a voluntary psych. eval. The he resisted an involuntary evel. Then he was placed in cuffs for safety.
I posted the code of VA above.
LEOs enforcing a law…how dare they.
I’m sure some of the guys here will be marching to the VA Capital first thing to have this unjust law overturned.
While they’re at it, visit NYC and East Palo Alto CA to demand change based off the two cases in 2010 of widespread hypocrisy in their law enforcement.
So some of you guys are just fine for hauling in a guy for a 30 day psych eval based on FB postings alone, with no behavioral problems? Wow.
30 days probably means loss of job in these hard times. If he had any guns (which he says he does not) then those would have been confiscated and who knows when if ever he would get them back. If the Rutherford group did not jump in he would be faced with large attorney fees even if found sane.
The FBI and SS found no reason to arrest or detain him. The local PD calls a psych hospital for a recommendation. OF COURSE they say bring him in so we can run up a bill! Self-fulfilling detention cause.
Sorry, the black panthers offering a reward for killing of Zimmerman seems far more serious a terrorist threat. If the feds were not concerned about the former Marine then why is the PD pressing it?
Again, committing someone for 30 days solely on FB postings and no behavior reasons is evil. Sue them high and low.
Or the thousands of left-wing moonbats who were screaming for President Bush to be killed. I don’t remember any incidents of them being locked up. Funny how this works.
Left-wing rants=protected by the First Amendment
Right-wing rants=Dangerous lunatic that needs to be locked up.
Get it now?
If he could be physically forced into it, there was nothing “voluntary” about it.
You’re a cop, aren’t you?
You nailed it. Well said. Remember the Battle of Athens!
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Thought put to media is not action, it’s still thought. If he said “I’m going to kill the generals at the base”, that is a direct threat and is actionable. Did he post that? Or did he instead post “delusional and threatening rants” that lacked specificity? Did he have motive, intent and opportunity? If so, then they can charge him with a crime. I’d say that by committing him to an involuntary inpatient evaluation, they did not have the elements required for a crime. So, who signed the detainer for evaluation? The police? Mental health authority? A relative?
His detention boils down to one thing, he talked to them. If he wanted to remain free, he should’ve shut his trap and asked for an attorney. Everything he says in the evaluation will probably work against his release. He has a right to legal representation and said representation should tell him to not cooperate. That might work against him in the short term, but it’s going to give his captors less ammunition to use against him in the long run.
It sucks that it winds up an adversarial process, but I’ve been seeing a lot of VERY unsettling trends regarding mental health and individual rights. The primary concern of everyone but the subject is the community. It’s up to the subject to cover their own concerns. Many of them are not going to be capable of doing that. They should have an advocate that is fair and impartial. That is NOT someone the government or medical facility assigns. 
Bullseye
“See something, say something” is/will manifest into the nightmare is was designed to become.
FUD at it’s finest.
Fomenting & promulgating fear, not only leads to oppression & tyranny but stagnates creativity & productivity.
Fair & just Gubbermints would never do that.
Should we call this the Aurora Mandate or the Oklahoma City Mandate?
So arresting detaining people for things they could or might do is now ok(preemptive war)? I don’t want it both ways. While this guys speech was gay and all infowars derp and paranoid, we typically cut off free speech when it’s -bomb on a airplane- or -fire! in a crowded theater-, something that poses a direct threat to the safety of others. This dosent fit that. It’s just some vet,his fb and a tinfoil hat. The whole “like Timmy McVay!” sounds like profiling. Where are the civil rights groups? Until we reach this, its a no go.
All societal circumstances considered, this man decided to draw attention to himself in a negative way while portraying himself as hostile and ready to kill. I feel much of his pain due to the fact that the current state of our union is indeed unsettling, but his particular path is not the one I would have chosen.
This post is full of win.
This stinks; thought crime is starting to be reality and we should do all we can to stop it from becomming the norm. Seriously.
Putting the pieces of the larger puzzle together; the sociopolitical climate of the world/here at home at the moment- I am becomming less and less optomistic we can turn things around anytime soon.:mad:
The times they are a changing…
I want to know this.
No… as I already mentioned above… I am not a LEO.
Here is the code again as well.
http://leg1.state.va.us/000/cod/37.2-808.HTM
The reason the Secret Service nor FBI took him to custody is because the code specifies that the primary jurisdiction do so.
I live here. This is very unusual. Usually people that get placed in that type custody are drug addict type situations.
I honestly believe the authorities know something that we don’t. I also think someone is trying to help him and not punish him.
I’ve had 3 close friends and family members that life got to them. All dead by age 45. Mental illness, even when it’s fairly mild can go real wrong real quick.
Sometimes a guy talking crazy really is a guy going crazy and not just talking shit on the Internet.
Dee Rybiski, an FBI spokeswoman in Richmond, said there was no Facebook snooping by her agency.
“We received quite a few complaints about what were perceived as threatening posts,” she said. “Given the circumstances with the things that have gone on in the country with some of these mass shootings, it would be horrible for law enforcement not to pay attention to complaints.”
So, if history repeats itself… what if this were Hinkley again? That turned out well.
It would be signed by a Judge or Magistrate to allow the eval. I think they have 4 hours to act on that approval. Then the doctor or health official would decide what to do. Release or detain.
That’s how I understand it.
I would like to know how he got 6 years service. 2005 - 2011. I thought you had to be in for 8 years. He’s 26 and just got back last year. do you serve less time if you are in the war zone?
I know I feel safer . . .:rolleyes:
NWPilgrim, you hit the X-ring. 
Well, I did contact Senator James Webb; a guy who’s personal definition of “combat” might be slightly different than that of Cooder County SWAT serving no knock warrants on non violent drug users.
I’ve asked once but since several of you think this is wrong.
What’s your solution? I don’t like that it’s happened.
How would you guys have handled it?
ETA:
Just found this… http://www.examiner.com/video/kidnapped-marine-vet-brandon-raub-speaks-out-from-psych-ward
Does it strike anyone as odd that he sounds perfectly normal yet says people ought to know the Government is reading their Facebook pages… is he serious? … he just figured that out?
He is now being transferred to Salem, VA to a VA hospital
http://www.examiner.com/article/update-on-brandon-raub-s-detention
something is really wrong with this picture… I don’t know what it is… but there has to be more to this story than anyone is telling.