Okay maybe not “asinine” per say, but his attitude did not help at all. Not to “profile” the guy, but he looks like a crackhead… Im not afraid to say it…
Act like an ass you get treated like one.
I frequently pass thru these checkpoints and while I don’t think they do much good, I know they are there and play the game. Last time when asked citizenship, I replied ‘native Texan’ which got a chuckle and a wave thru.
This.
They run a checkpoint north of Ft Huachuca, last time through I told the guy I was a US Citizen, but everyone else was from Texas. They laughed, and wished us well.
If I am running drugs then getting through the checkpoint fast should be on my too-do list.
be polite, answer the questions and move out. The longer I am there, the greater the risk in getting caught.
You think that would be taught in drug possession 101.
There is no right to operate a vehicle on public roadways.
Based on the video, and the followup story, seems pretty cut and dry. Dog alerted, BP went through protocol, Ruthless Toothless made it difficult, he was detained while they finished doing their job, was subsequently released after they found a small amount of marijuana (which would kinda explain the dog alerting). Makes all kinds of sense to me, but I’ve never been accused of having much of an imagination.
Freedom.
How is it some of you guys get the right to bear arms is as much about muskets from when it was written to any other form of firearm that came afterwards- yet the right to peacebly move about the country stopped when cars were invented because they weren’t around back then?
Boggles my mind how people just pick and choose how to apply “rights”; as if a right isnt a universal thing that should not be watered down to a permission EVER!
Guy acted rudely, but that doesn’t give the Federale carte Blanche to violate his rights.
One more thing to add- Thinking that these types of Check points will catch terrorists is laughable; King Obama and company are flying them in as refugees, haven’t you heard?!
Aren’t most of the illegals found just let out into the country anyways?
Checkpoints are about control not safety.
Every road in the US should be made a turnpike, then. Turnpikes are as old as the Union and perfectly Constitutional.
That’ll solve the problem: Checkpoints for every county, for every city, for every state. Every time you cross an invisible line that only exists on a map in some bureaucrat’s office. Stop. Pay the nice man (or woman) in the booth. Carry on traveling. And then we can replace the CBP running these checkpoints with Federal Tollway Enforcement under the Department of Homeland Security. Don’t - or can’t - pay the toll and you’ll get pulled over and fined - or your car will be confiscated to pay your toll and fine, since you obviously won’t be able to afford to go back, either. Every where you go will be tracked and you’ll pay for every where you go. This will, naturally, be on top of the taxes you already pay for gasoline and such enforcement will, naturally, be in addition to actions taken by municipal, local, and state law enforcement. Such tolls will be made based on the amount of carbon released by your vehicle and its weight.
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They are deported.
Also, how are they controlling? You’d be surprised to know that they actually do catch bad guys at checkpoints.
Please go through a checkpoint, exercise your “rights” that you have poorly misconstrued, make the arguments that you have put out here in court and post back the results. I think you will be shocked. You have the right to travel, but remember you are on FEDERAL roads. Additionally, there have been numerous supreme court cases solidifying the legality of these checkpoints. At the moment the dog alerted to the car, you have PC for a lawful search. The moment the man started arguing with the CBP officer instead of answering questions, especially in the manner he does (which screams sovereign citizen), you have an officer safety issue. The moment he tried to roll the window up on his arm, that safety issue escalated.
An officer/agent does not have to explain his RAS or PC to you. But you DO have to comply with a lawful order, which all of those where, from a peace officer.
They can’t put these checkpoints wherever they want, but they CAN put them on the interior of border states after the initial checkpoints.
Might want to read up on your law.
What is that about perception, again?
Because I certainly see another common denominator in every single one of these situations…
The supreme court has said a lot of things are lawful over the years… But that doesn’t mean the nature of them is necessarily right fundamentally.
That video is just bad. Guy gave them a reason to f*ck with him, so they did. I don’t want to pick the feds’ side, but im sure they deal with jackasses like this guy all the time. They shouldn’t have just yanked him from his car though…
Yep…the one common denominator in these videos is the driver being belligerent and having an attitude right from the start.
These agents are working long hours in the high heat and for not much money. I am pretty sure they deal with douchebags like that all day long. So when you start out from the very beginning like this guy did…what the hell do you expect?
I used to go through the BP checkpoint on Hwy 281 outside Alice, TX every fall on a trip to the valley to go dove hunting with a buddy that lives in McAllen. Every time I got waived right on through after being friendly and acting normal…no problems. One time, I did get asked the “gun question” and I answered, “yeah…I have a shotgun and a Glock in the truck…do you need to see them?” The BP agent just said no and waived me on.
Some can blabber on all they want about rights but acting friendly or acting like a dick have VERY different outcomes everywhere in life…from the board room to…yes…the BP check point.
Think about it…every one of those black guys we have seen beaten by cops on those vids was doing WHAT before he got struck? Acting like a dick…hello!
You would think that some people would take a lesson from these films but some people are just wired to love pushing people’s buttons.
Those people often get exactly what they deserve…sorry.
What did the “Federale” do to violate this man’s rights?
Just released an illegal after being arrested on a DV Harassment. Was given a 24hr PR. During that time, Denver ICE conducted a phone interview with him and established he is illegal and has been deported once. They never placed an ICE detainer on him and he walked free.
These checkpoints are laughable, at best. Want to see changes, stop letting them go free…
Assholes, dicks, and saints all have the same thing in common= they all have the same rights.
Think about that statement for a minute. Yes, I know that is supposedly black-letter law and virtually any state or federal court will regurgitate it whenever the issue is presented. But it is totally illogical for our supposed system of government, nominally a constitutional republic with limited powers. There is no practical way to travel meaningfully without a vehicle. Taking this rule at face value means that all travel is a privilege and any rights you might have end at your front door.
As for the CBP checkpoints generally - I’ve been through one, in Texas about an hour east of El Paso. The agents were friendly and polite and I was on my way in 10 seconds (I was not a dick either). I can see the practical utility of the checkpoints. But I can’t see any way that they are legally valid under the federal Constitution. If you want to control the border, which is indeed a legitimate government function, do it AT THE @#$# BORDER. Especially today when it doesn’t seem that the administration allows CBP to make a serious effort at controlling THE ACTUAL BORDER, I can’t see any legal justification for road checkpoints far away from the border.
You know, when I started in law enforcement I had this funny idea that I was actually working for the citizens, all of them, in one way or another. I also realized that a lot of times folks weren’t going to be all perky when I contacted them, I kind of figured if I wanted a job where everybody was always going to be happy to see me I would have done something else, maybe sell ice cream.
These agents are working long hours in the high heat and for not much money. I am pretty sure they deal with douchebags like that all day long. So when you start out from the very beginning like this guy did…what the hell do you expect?
These folks weren’t drafted, they knew the pay and the working conditions. They will walk out the door at 55 with a pretty good federal pension. Save the pity party for something else.
You went through sierra blanca. They caught a guy with a load of dope there last week.