Just wondering if Magpul, has ever thought of, or may be currently thinking of producing a video series focused solely on tactics in addition to weapon manipulation.
Maybe building/room clearing techniques, escape and evasion techniques, maybe even survival and entry level medical tips.
Show us how to clear a ship, things like why to go down a stairway in a certain manner over another, pieing corners, initiate contact/ break contact, ambushing techniques, just all around tactical techniques. I have watched many different videos on tactics and I would welcome the Magpul approach to this subject.
They take great pains during classes to say that they are weapon manipulation not tactics classes. It is impossible to totally divorce the two since when you start moving and shooting there are implicit things they mention, but they don’t even talk about pieing around a corner or anything that ‘advanced’.
I wondered if Travis going out on his own is going to tackle that area of the market more.
Don’t all Magpul classes require a CCW or background check now?
HVWM Course did cover some movements, at one time we had 18 moving on the line across the field while firing. Of course there were off sets built into the course of fire, but then the shooters were all MIL, SRT, LEO with good weapon manipulation.
MP does cover movement in class, such as the starsky and hutch stress fire drill. As far as CQB look at their critical infrastructure class.
I was at the recent class in Custer and they required a copy of my CCW. In regards to the OP, I completely agree that it would be great to see and learn, but I very much doubt they will make that information available to us common folk.
I have an idea, join the military. If you cant, then leave it to the professionals. Instead focus on shooting accurately and enjoy the fact that your shooting on a one way range.
Luckily, the military is the only place where people get shot at or have to use a firearm against more than cardboard.
What I appreciated from the Magpul Handgun class, especially from Chris, was that it was foremost on his mind was that people in the class might have to be in a gun fight, on their way home from the class or someday inteh future- eventhough we were all civilians and half of us were engineers.
Granted, we don’t need to know how to clear a ship- I wish I was rich enough for a yacht that big- and you need to know how not to trip (weapon manipulation and remedial action) before you run and gun, but some instruction on how not to get shot would be beneficial for everyone.
There are plenty of sources out there for this, not many that package it neatly and cleanly. Most sources concentrate on strategy rather than tactics. That’s because tactics are so dependent upon the situation, meaning the entire context of the situation.
Flat out hands down the best training I had in the Corps was using MILES gear. Going up against other Marines with basically laser tag was an eye opener. For us civilian shooters air soft is a good option. An air soft handgun doesn’t break the bank and you get the chance to have another thinking person try to hit you.
The key is to keep the egos on the shelf and let each other learn. If you can’t take getting hit by someone (your ego I mean) then don’t do it. All you’ll do is built a false sense of security and the guys you are working with won’t learn a thing. Then it’s only a matter of time before they don’t train with you.
The biggest issue with a CQB themed DVD is the inability to see your own bad habits forming and have them corrected on the spot. When we train MOUT, there’s always SL’s and TL’s watching their guys run through the rooms. We do hours of rehearsals prior to even going through a blank-fire iteration. After blanks, we move up to gun bullets.
Point being: no matter how much instruction you receive, an urban environment is a very organic place to be in a firefight. Threats are in a 360-degree circle around you. When you enter a room, there’s a LOT that comes in to play and it takes muscle memory and a competent coach (or two) to teach you how to do it properly so that people don’t get hurt. I learn something new every time I go into the shoot house and I always leave with a different way to do certain things. I learn every day.
As has been recommended, take a class on CQB if you really want to know this stuf. A DVD on the subject isn’t going to do any more for you than reading up on the MOUT FM would. It’s easy to say “take your corner”, but it’s a lot different when you have to do it.
And sim rounds trump MILES for this sort of thing. Since that’s unrealistic for the majority of us to do in our spare time, airsoft is an acceptable alternative. However, the pain from a sim round is a major brain-waker-upper and one of the best ways to break bad habits.
