Magpul MOE makeover goes horribly wronge! *VIDEO ADDED!*

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Being that I must be a complete idiot, I have to ask a question…

Is it possable that Magpul placed a non .mil stock into a box marked for a .mil stock?

I ordered a Magpul MOE set in Foilage Green to dress up my rifle rather than try to paint things.

The MOE stock I got was in a box maked Military style as was the invoice… and since the .mil style is the largest of the two, I knew that it would fit too loose if my Charles Daly Defense was a civi buffer tube, or fit just right if it was a .mil spec buffer tube. I also know that my Stag is a .mil buffer tube, so if it fits loose, I just dress out the Stag first and then order the MOE parts for the CDD in non .mil next week!

So I removed the OEM CDD stock and went to put the .mil Magpul on… and she was snug as hell to get to start! I got it started about a half inch and decided that I am not getting anywhere fighting it by hand in the kitchen here so I went down to the shop (concrete floors) and I knelt down, I then pulled the pin all the down on the MOE stock release lever and took the rifle and grenaded that son of a bitch into the concrete stock first… thinking it would go on and get past this odd tight spot. Nope. It went on another inch or so.

O.O

Now I’m starting to get:

  1. Pissed off
  2. Myself in trouble

So I thought I would pull it off by hand. Nope, this SOB is on there good. (Come inside my head for a second!)… Maybe it needs to be forced all the way on and then it will loosen up and work normal, yea, that must be it… it is a .mil stock, it said it on the box and invoice… it has to be a .mil stock! Hit it harder, get it on! So I grenaded that son of a gun 3 or 4 more times and got it all the way on… and boy, she is tight!

So after realizing that this thing is likely not going to come off without a dremel to cut it off… I got semi serious. I grabbed a strap and tied one end to the ball on my truck and the other end I tied to the MOE stock. I jerked and yanked on this think like I was fighting for my life… not a fraction of an inch of movement. Nothing.

This next paragraph is my minds next logical move before employing power tools to remove/destroy the MOE stock…

So I think tonight I will use the 4,000 LB Warn winch on my Yamaha Rhino and attach the winch to the MOE and somehow secure the riffle to the truck and commence to pull with the winch. I’m going to go ahead and assume that by the time this is over, I will have at a minimum destroyed the Magpul MOE stock, maybe some part of the rifle along with it. Nothing I can do at this point but get it off some way and recover in whatever way is necesary.

Then I guess I buy another .mil MOE stock and see what I get! Next time I’ll measure first, grenade things later!

Just to verify:
This is unusual right? I have never removed and replaced a stock…
I take it that I could have gotten a civilian spec stock in a .mil spec box and forced the civi stock onto a mil spec buffer tube. Would that be tighter than all get out? Because this is tighter than hell!
Should I video using the winch to somehow pull the stock off of the buffer tube? I may as well have fun with this now, I have completely hosed up at this point.

Picture of the great looking MOE set up… with the permanently attached MOE stock…LOL!

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I’m a little confused, so excuse me if I’m misreading your post. The mil-spec receiver extension is actually the smaller of the two. It sounds to me like you may have forced a mil-spec stock onto a commercial-spec receiver extension.

See here: http://www.laruetactical.com/pics/BufferTube/CTR_Stock_Specs.jpg

:confused:

Derek

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Video!!! Haha.

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Oh… shit.

I ASSumed that the .mil was the larger/stronger tube.

Damn it, I should have read the paperwork that came with the stock. I hate reading instructions, but dang… it does not make sense that the mil version is the smaller! So, that is the deal, the CDD must not be a mil spec buffer tube and my rationalization of the size with no reading the facts led me to act a fool.

Well, now I need to get the thing off.

It does look pretty good though, huh? I like the MOE stuff, looks nice and the feel of the heat gaurd over the OEM black round heat gaurd is much better.

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Which CDD model do you have? I think it was something like(I might have the model designations wrong though) the CDDM4 had a commercial RE while the CDDM4LE had a milspec RE.

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You are correct that I have the CD-DM4, not the CD-DM4LE.

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I added a Magpul MOE stock to my rifle last year. I confirmed the size before ordering and slipped it on the buffer tube with just my fingers. It was very easy to do. Sorry you had such a difficult time.

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LOL!!! :slight_smile:

No sorry, I was in a hurry, excited, and well… there may have been some beer involved leading up to the decision making process that got me to this point. I’m more amused at this point now that I know that it was packaged correctly and installed by a baffoon! Yes, the primate in question would be me!

Now I get to turn the bad string of choices into something interesting as I try to remove it as colorfully as I can… with a winch!

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I say sell it on TOS as a fixed stock to someone in a ban state. I expect that it is now “fixed” and you will not be able to remove it…

Buckaroo

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At least it won’t rattle…

Something to try…put your lower w/stock in the freezer and let it cold soak overnight.

MAYBE the metal will shrink enough compared to the plastic to let you pull it off without too much drama.

If you do get it off though, don’t toss it quite yet. There isn’t that much difference between a mil and civ tube…something like .010" off the inner diameter all around. Not a 10 minute job, but doable with a right-sized dowel and appropriate sandpaper and you get to customize the fit to your liking. (I’m about as lazy as they come, but I’ve done it…and know others that have, too)

…and try to keep your sense of humor. If that’s the biggest mistake you make with a firearm, you won’t be too bad off.

MikeN

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Well, I tried again tonight to jerk at it and it is not budging at all. Maybe tomorow I’ll have more time and hook the winch up to it. As for the freezing… I suspect both the plastic and the steel (or alluminum?) buffer tube will get smaler and not do much to help. Besides, the idea of using excessive force (4,000 lb Warn Winch!) kind of turns me on! I like sledge hammers and torches… dramatic results! So I promise to video the chaos and put on my You Tube account for you all to shake your heads at me and think… WTF was he thinking!?

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use spray lube. might help

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Hey, on another note… is the MP 15-22 using the civilian size tube for the stock? If not, I can put this on the MP 15-22 and order a new one for the CDD DM4. I also need to get the lower rail add on and a AFG in the same color.

My plan is to the CDD in Foilage Green, the Stag 1L in Olive Drab, one of the new builds in Dark Earth and then one MP 15-22 in Foilage and the other I’m going to atempt to Duracoat multi-cam. That will be the end of my dressing up, then I’ll worry about finishing the other lower I built into a 10.5" pistol, or maybe I’ll get that Spikes Tactical 7.5" Concusion upper for the pistol.

I’m going to try and do one every 2 weeks (pay day) until they are all dressed up.

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This may not be a bad idea, I can spray some penetrating oil into it and leave it soak for a day and then go winch it.

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before you destroy a perfectly good stock- have you assessed your needs? for me, if you glued my stock fully collapsed, i’d probably never find out.

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I am only 5’8" but I tend to like the second click out, in the current “all the way in” config, it seems very short to me. Maybe I could teach myself to use this position… but I am really used to the position one out from here.

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That’s what I was wondering, can you run it as is? Sorry about your misfortune.

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maybe winch it out to the second click, and call 'er done. can you think of any reason you’d NEED to collapse it all the way? you have one of the only MOE stocks that’s completely rock solid tight- that’s a good thing.

i’d use the fucker, meself.

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That may be an idea. I’ll see if I can winch it out gently, if there is such a thing… and get it to the 2nd pin drop.