Anyone besides me having problems with Magpuls Mags? I can’t get mine to lockup in my S&WM&P15T.:mad:
We had 3 S&W ARs in the store when we got out first batch of PMAGs the other day and it wouldn’t lock up in the Tactical model too. I think the lower is out of spec since the mags lock up in everything else we have on the wall.
Did you notice just what the differences in the Mag. wells? I am trying to really get down to where the S&WM&T15T is out of Spec. if it really is out.
It’s right at the bottom of the magwell, it’s not beveled enough for the mag to enter far enough.
I just feel it’s the Magpuls Rib. or the placment of the top Rib. that is causing my problem of their Mag. being able to get far enough into the Mag. well to get locked.
Do you have GEN I or GEN II mags?
C4
Since it fits the other 2 S&Ws and the other 20+ rifles from other manufacturers we have on the wall it appears to be a S&W problem. Those other manufacturers are new RRA, Colt, S&W, Stag. The mags also fit all my privately owned ARs which have DPMS, RRA, Bushmaster, LMT, & PWA lowers. Our shipment of PMAGs are 04-2007 (aka latest generation)
Other people who have had this issue have found the contact point, and given the mag a few loving swipes with a file. This has cured the ailment.
None would lock sent them back to my vendor for a refund. Magpul said they were sending me two (2) new Mag.s this to cover my out of pocket shipping costs from and back to my vendor.
I will try the grinding at the problem interface rib. If it works I will order ten (10) more and rework them if needed.
Where’s that picture of the tops of the new vs. old so those of us getting some in can compare them. I bought one from BCM with a bunch of other stuff and want to make sure it’s new. I totally trust BCM though but you never know.
I’m about to order some of these but not sure if it will fit dpms lower. Have you guys tried the pmags in the dpms lowers?
Look at GotM4s post- he says they’ve worked in his DPMS lowers. You should be good to go.
I should read before I post. Thanks man
Here ya go Joseph
flanker interesting read over on arfcom about your attitude…
Originally Posted By flanker4741:
Well I would try calling Magpul I did not have the same problem as you. My Magpul Mags just won’t lock into my S&W AR.[:(!] Never got as far as you have. Anyway calling Magpul will get you a guy named Eric I am betting and he will try telling you some story about it’s your ARs fault. If this helps great but don’t count on getting any real help from Magpul.
My advice is send the Mags quickly back to the vendor you bought them from this is what I did.[:)] Then get some tried and true metal 30rd Mags.[^]
Originally Posted By Magpul:
[quote]Originally Posted By Governor:
Right after the Pmags went on sale I bought 4 to test. I was not able to get to the range until today to give them a go. They did not load very well and I questioned their functioning even before firing. I loaded up all the mags with 30 rounds, entered one the mags in my RRA Entry Tac and charged the handle. The first round went into the chamber fine, fired, and the the carrier closed on an empty chamber. It seemed that the mag could not push the round up fast enough to be caught by the carrier. I cleared it and charged the handle again. This one went in fine. I fired and the next one took a nose dive. I took out the mag and tried slipping the rounds out by hand. With each round the follower/cartridges came up at a snails pace. The last 10 rounds in the mag seemed to function fine in all the mags, but I had the same problems described above with each of the magazines. Either a nose dive or not making it into the chamber at all. More than 50
% of the rounds did this. I only shot about 20 rounds total through the Pmags because I got so frustrated. I cycled more rounds by hand and encountered the same thing.I believe the Pmag has a lot of promise because of its strengths above the normal GI mags, but my confidence in the Pmag system is waning. I hope I just got a bad first batch, but I am reluctant to try them again.
Does anyone recommend who I should contact, my supplier or Magpul themselves to rectify the problem?
(Before anyone asks, all GI and HK mags work perfectly in approx. 700 rounds.)
Give us a call on tuesday (1 877 4MAGPUL) and Amanda or some one else will get the mags exchanged for you. This issues was addressed in the 04/07 revision. If that does not work we will refund your money. [/quote]
Originally Posted By Magpul:
[quote]Originally Posted By flanker4741:
Well I would try calling Magpul I did not have the same problem as you. My Magpul Mags just won’t lock into my S&W AR.[:(!] Never got as far as you have. Anyway calling Magpul will get you a guy named Eric I am betting and he will try telling you some story about it’s your ARs fault. If this helps great but don’t count on getting any real help from Magpul.
My advice is send the Mags quickly back to the vendor you bought them from this is what I did.[:)] Then get some tried and true metal 30rd Mags.[^]
Flanker4741 is unhappy because we wouldn’t send him 6 free mags after he sent his original 6 back to to his vendor for a refund.
flanker4741, we have decided we will send you two mags to cover the cost of you shipping but that is it. [/quote]
Originally Posted By flanker4741:
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flanker consider yourself warned.
GotM4 has explained to you in painful detail.
Rich (Magpul) is an extremely honorable individual and we will not tolerate your BS on this site.
-Kevin
Wrong thread…
NM. I guess it was the right thread. I was going to say “me too” regarding “should have read more before replying…”
So, there I am reposting it 
S&W lowers are the only lowers to date that I have seen have any issues with PMags. Draw your own conclusions…
Some interesting food for thought. First, cutters become dual and from time to time we see tight magwell’s from a variety of manufacturers (to include LMT, POF, etc ,etc). This is somewhat normal I think.
As we all know, there is an allowed variation in the magwell diameter and in the size of magazines as well. Most manufacturers try to stay around the middle of this spec, but that doesn’t always happen.
The best way to see who is at “fault” for this would be to get a set of digital calipers and measure the inside of the magwell.
I have now sold over 800 PMAGS and have NOT had a single return on any of them for the issue mentioned above. This tells me something.
There is also another rumor going around that the reason that S&W has pulled ALL of their AR’s from being made at Stag Arms is because they were getting “seconds” in ALL components. This might explain why we are seeing out of spec S&W lowers. Just a thought…
C4
Wow. How legal would it be to use all seconds for one certain company’s AR production? I guess it would depend on the contracts, huh? I mean, seconds are just that, not total rejects or garbage but just not quite the best.