Well I guess this is my new home. The admins or moderators or whatever you call them over at ar15.com locked my account because I was asking silly and stupid questions. :mad: For crying out loud, I’m just trying to learn! I found m4carbine.net and would like to call it home now. 
What are my chances of getting my account locked here for silly and stupid questions?
Which way to the coffee?
Strike one! 
Welcome to the good life. Sorry you had a bad experience at TOS.
Use the search feature and you will find a wealth of information at your fingertips!!!
Lots of wise counsel and good people here.
Buckaroo
if you flood the tech forums over here with questions on protecting the “finish” of your rifle, you aren’t going to get much sympathy either i’m afraid…
You’ll also notice that the signal-to-noise ratio is much higher here.
edit: thanks T_J
Welcome.
I would simply recommend reading a lot first before posting. Review the tacked threads in each of the subforums.
The forum rules and mission statement would be a good place to start.
I’m not sure about getting locked out, but you’ll be mighty unpopular if you continue down the path you were on in TOS. I’m pretty new to black rifles, and even I shook my head in disbelief at some of your posts and your inability to convey thoughts with legible english.
In some ways the guys on this site are more tolerant of noobs than TOS, but this is definitely not the site for you if all you want to do is spend more time looking at your roll marks and brand names than through an Aimpoint or iron sights.
This is the key. Read the tacked threads and then do searches. If you do not find the answer to your questions, then ask.
C4
I’m shaking my head at you because you have no idea what you are saying. Point to one of my posts at ar15.com that is disrespectful of the rifle building community. Every post I made over there was geared towards “learning”. Of course the cool kids all think that my questions are silly and stupid, but the only way you learn is to ask, even if the questions asked are considered silly or stupid. The problem over there was that the “cool kids” were also the moderators and I obviously wasn’t cool enough to be in their club. I hope this forum isn’t like the other.
Step 1: Leave any previous drama back at that board and move forward here.
Wow, dude. Not a cool way to start. Please slow down. Over “here” there are more ‘end users’ than collectors. Take a few weeks to read and learn. Almost every aspect of this weapon system is sticky’d. Just chill and read brother!
Good enough, but how do I permanently block comments from people I consider “button pushers”? Including “high and mighties” like “Wow, dude. Not a cool way to start”.
If you click on someone’s profile you can add them to your ignore list.
I never said anything about you being disrespectful or disruptive. Their frustration with you was with your lack of ability to research on your own, asking questions that had been covered over and over and in some cases you even ignored correct answers and continued to bump redundant questions.
Also, as an observation, you seemed more interested in how your gun would look more than anything on TOS. In my short time here, I’ve noticed that mods and long time members here are shooters and tend to value function, reliability, and accuracy over looks. They may not take you seriously if you continue on that track. Also, members here tend to have thicker skin and don’t get all butthurt over constructive criticism.
I hope you are able to make a fresh start over here. This site tends to be more to the point and concise when it comes to sharing knowledge, but you HAVE to use the search engine a little. It is much more user friendly on this site than the hamstrung search engine on arfcom. Good luck.
SS
Please don’t take any of my comments personally, as we have never met – but there are some important cultural conventions to note.
I am new to Internet forums in general, too. I find the Internet to be a strange place, due to its inherent anonymity, the coldness of typed messages – and often, people vent on the computer to release steam. That, I find, is pretty common.
I suppose, as a cop, encouraging people to follow rules, conventions and to remember the world does not revolve around oneself comes naturally.
In ANY culture where new people want acceptance – including privately owned websites – new people should be encouraged to “invest” in the established community by researching (and searching) before interacting. Just like people who want to become citizens, they are required to invest in their adopted country by learning its history and laws.
New members should be conservative in their approach, since there is no entitlement to be accepted, anywhere. Technical firearms forums tend to be conservative in nature, if not always politically.
IMHO, TOS is a cesspool because people fail to exercise self-restraint, and while there are some decent deals to be found – the level of interaction there is out of control. That is not to say that there are no good members – but WAY too many people joined and acted as if they had a right to be accepted, when NO SUCH RIGHT EXISTS.
There is nothing wrong with being new. Yet, I would strongly suggest that asking questions is NOT the ONLY way to learn, IMHO.
Searching and researching often answers those same questions that new people have, and is perceived as more respectful, considerate and mindful that some tenured members may have already devoted significant effort to answer these same questions.
ALL members find lack of searching annoying, because the new member is self-involved rather than contributing – since after all, the question has probably been asked countless times by other new people. So, searching means that one is not asking the tenured members to duplicate or triplicate their efforts, yet AGAIN.
That’s the beauty of the computer. It is not like doing a hand search is required for membership.
Accordingly, those who choose not to read or follow forum rules, social conventions, or do any simple searches before posting are often perceived as having been inconsiderate of previous efforts. It ain’t about YOU – it is about US.
Further, in my limited experience, I have observed that forum “participation” is NOT the most highly valued activity – CONTRIBUTING is.
There is much encouragement, if one is willing to look for it.
Good luck!
Wow PRG, that post needs to be a sticky in several sites I visit on the internet.
I agree.
What is the point of a forum unless people ask questions and have discussions. Part of doing research is reading AND asking questions. I know this is not the world of law enforcement or journalism, but a good LEO or journalist asks questions.
Secondly if I’m more interested in how my gun looks than it should only be noted by those that have similar interests and not by those that don’t share in my attention to details. Simple enough. Problem is the high and mighties have to chime in when the post or topic really doesn’t interested them to begin with, they just want to belittle someone.
Did I just hear the toilet get flushed?
It certainly was not my intent to belittle you, since my post was NOT directed at YOU personally. It is intended as a polite reminder that contribution is more worthwhile than participation. This is not girls T-ball and everyone is NOT a winner.
One cannot have a successful first date by complaining about one’s ex-girlfriend…
Yet, perhaps we can ALL be reminded that we cannot feel belittled without our consenting to it. Everything is a choice. We do not have a right to go through this world unoffended. Simply, while it was not my intention to belittle anyone – it truly matters NOT to me if one CHOOSES to feel that way.
Yes, we are entitled to have different opinions – just as communities have the right to reject certain persons. That’s why jails exist.
Appropriately, MANY members are politely encouraging research before posting questions; so if acceptance into this community is desired, a recipe for such has been provided. Do it and have fun – or refuse to do it and get confronted. As stated, as long as sincere searching is conducted before questions are asked, few of us will have issues. Shortcutting that process helps no one – and essentially, that’s what many of us are saying. We all have that choice, but the consequences are unavoidable.
While agreement is never required, acceptable discourse IS required for acceptance into the community. Yes, ask questions – but do research FIRST. Period.
We have the right to ask questions. We also have the affirmative right to blow off the question and encourage the asker to look it up. Teach a man to fish, remember? Simply, no one is ever OBLIGATED to answer a question. Just as one has the right to ask a favor, one has the right to turn it down.
We cannot control others, but we CAN control ourselves. A friend from another site has this tag line in his signature:
Watch your thoughts, because thoughts become words. Watch your words, because words become actions.
A wise proverb to be sure.
A conscious choice not to modify behavior often results in repeated rejection. Whatever behaviors get a person removed from one society should be modified for acceptance in the next society – or did I miss Civics class?
A word to the wise is sufficient. Of one truth I am certain, the rising and setting of the sun does not depend on the opinions of one person.
Dust the sand out, and move forward. Simply, I would surmise most of us could not care less what happened at TOS – but I would imagine we would have no reservations of holding you and anyone to this forum’s rules and expectations.
If anyone does not like this place, we always have the right to leave – preferrably quietly and with some grace.
Again, all the best to you, and good luck here at M4C!
Alan