Maybe online. I work at a brick and mortar store, I think we sell them at $24, IIRC cost on them is almost $20.
Please share your source for new $15 round XD mags. I’ll need some for my 4" XD45acp that’s on the way.
I’m not willing to give up my Glocks, yet. I notice that every time I pick up my Glock, it just feels right to me. It shoots better than I do, so why change from one striker fired pistol to another?
Same here, hence my curiosity on the M&P. If it will offer me something more, then I dont want to overlook it, but if not, I dont want to waste time and money on it.
The answer is really dependant on you. If you don’t feel the M&P is going to offer you something the Glock doesn’t then there is no reason to get an M&P.
While I have spent the better part of 9 years or so carrying a Glock almost daily (issue gun is a 23) I find the M&P does offer some things the Glock doesn’t for me.
I find the grip angle on the M&P to be nearly identical to the 1911s I also carry. The first time I picked one up it just felt right. The interchangeable backstraps are neat…if you need to find one gun for an entire department. Of course if the Glock feels okay in your hand that’s a non-issue. When shooting Glocks I often would rip open the web of my hand. After years of S&W autoloaders and 1911s with beavertail grip safeties I grip rather high on the backstrap of the gun. The M&P grip eliminates this problem.
I like the fact that the M&P sights are not plastic. I can’t tell you how many front and rear sights I have had to replace on Glocks since we switched to them. All my Glocks wear Heinie straight or slant eights which eliminates the problem. Plastic sights…what was Gaston thinking? (Besides the obvious cost savings…)
Now before you think I’m drinking at the cool aid well of M&P allow me to add that the stock trigger just sucks! I find the over travel and reset to be pretty much unacceptable out of the box. Luckily it is an easy gun to perform a trigger job on that will reduce the overtravel and reset w/o making the trigger too light for serious social work or if you choose, down right light for competitive shooting.
What’s the answer? I’m not sure. I own several Glocks and I don’t see that ever changing. I also have two Smith M&Ps which I’m really starting to find enjoyable to shoot and more then adequate carry guns. If you are happy with your Glock, stick with it. If you think the M&P has something to offer, give it a shot. Luckily you don’t have to marry your guns. Selling them off or trading them against new ones is much easier and less expensive then trading in the ex-wife!
“All my Glocks wear Heinie straight or slant eights which eliminates the problem. Plastic sights…what was Gaston thinking? (Besides the obvious cost savings…)”
He’s probably thinking the BATFE are a bunch of assholes because the pistols are imported with target sights, which are removed and replaced with plastic ones; and the target sights get sent back to Austria for the next batch of imported slides. Has to do with “import points.”
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[QUOTE=modern_pirateHe’s probably thinking the BATFE are a bunch of assholes because the pistols are imported with target sights, which are removed and replaced with plastic ones; and the target sights get sent back to Austria for the next batch of imported slides. Has to do with “import points.”
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Actually that only applies to the “mini” Glocks. They (the minis) are all imported with the adjustable sights due to their size and importaztion points. That’s also why they have the goofy “target thumb rest” molded into the grips…more import points.
Of course that doesn’t change the fact that the plastic sights are lacking…
I shoot very reliable and durable 9 mm Glocks and .45 ACP 1911’s. On the other hand, none of the available .40 S&W pistols were too exciting…until the M&P. The M&P is proving to be a reliable, ergonomic, high capacity, soft-shooting, rail-equipped .40 caliber pistol that doesn’t tend to have the problems associated with Glocks in calibers other than 9 mm. For me it fills a role that other pistols had not yet met.
Here’s my Take on the M&P 40 I got to take for a test run back in Jan of this year I reposted from an older thread on another forum
Stroke of Luck I went shooting this weekend with a few guys and one had a M & P .40 that he got for his dept for T & E and he had a case of ammo. He wanted to get some guys to shoot it up and I was happy to comply.
Now I’m no Expert, but I know what I like and have shot a handgun A time or two. My first Impression
-excellent ergonomics. I tried al three grips and the medium was the best for me. over all the pointability is excellent. it fit in my Gcode G17 Holster so I got a chance to draw and fire. very nice, well balanced, easy to maintain a good grip and easy to control in rapid fire. The interchangable grip pieces swap out fast. Turn the lip on the bottom of the grip 90Degrees and pull it out and the grip pops right off. Takes 10 seconds to change out.
Sights were Nice, the front sight was a little hard to see compared to the rear. Not a show stopper, but I would need to fix that.
trigger was pretty sweet. Crisp. I agree with Rob, the reset was a little long and I found my self pressing back a few times before resetting. Definetly not a Glock trigger. The reset distance could be shorter.
Mag catch is nice and ambidexterous. Easy to reach and operate. I like it better then that litle square one on my G17…
-Slide release is recessed , don’t plan on using it to release the slide as it’s easy for your thumb to miss it. ( I pull the slide back ala sling shot anyhow)
-Accuracy was very good, even in rapid fire I was able to keep them in a 2-3 " circle at 5-7 yds.
Now for the Negative, I only ran about 300 rds thru it, but I had the slide lock back with one or two rds still left in the magazine, this happened several times. (at least 4-5 times) now their was only 3 mags with the pistol and we were not keeping track of the mags, so it may be magazine issues.
I stopped to show the the Malfuction each time it happened. The guys watched me to make sure I was not riding the Slide release while shooting, and that was not it. My thumbs were to short to reach it with my grip anyhow.I did run about 3-4 mags thru in rapid succession on steel at 25yds and had the pistol pretty warmed up (treated it like a rental car… )
Another issue was the roll pin in the frame for the Block was working it’ts way out. it had to be punched back in several times. According to the officer who had it for T& E he told the reps about the roll pin working out and was told he’s the first one to have mentioned it as an issue. it worked out about 1/16" for me after about 150-200 rds using the Federal supplied Factory ammo we were shooting thru it. Some one else had asked in this thread about that, so I’m now wondering if someone else is having the issue.
And finally, the hinged two peice trigger. everyone who shot it mentioned how the trigger abraded on the bottom front pad of everyone’s trigger finger. I have a nice little Blister as I type this on my finger fron only 300 rds… :
This trigger does not press straight back, but from the two piece hinge design rotated up as it’s coming back.
Overall I thought it was a sweet little shooter. Never liked mag safeties, but it sounds like a model will come out with out one. If the price point is not going to be competitive with Glocks, it may be a tough sell.
Just my Humble Impression
I have to much invested in Mags for My Glock to think about switching for what little bit I would gain from this pistol… just my $02 Nor would it make me a better shooter.
Hawkeye,
I’m in the same boat as you. I’m also a long time Glock user and carry one every day but I also have been keeping and eye on the M&P and so far I like what I’ve seen.
I recently got to put a couple of hundred rounds through an M&P 9 and it made me more of a believer. Oh, I’m not giving up my Glock’s either but I may need to add an M&P to my collection soon.
The one thing that really stood for me is the ergonomics of the M&P. When I grip the M&P it just feels like it was made for my hand and it also naturally points really well for me too.
As far as ergonmics go I would say that it’s almost like comparing the AK(Glock) and the AR(M&P). Maybe not that bad but you get what I’m saying.
Again, the only thing that’s still in question is how it will do in the long run…
Yojimbo, I agree. The feel of the grip area is one thing that did feel good to me on the M&P. Ergonomics of it are definitely nice.
Who ordered Crow for dinner?
Some of you guys might be a little surprised on who I just shot an M&P 9mm with this evening.
FYI – It was his, fresh out of the box… and he loved it.
Answer: It was M4arc himself. 
IMO - It was my first experience with the M&P 9mm also and I came away very impressed. It is one hell of a handgun.
I would never lie to you guys. I just have to say I told you so. 
ETA: Imagine that same gun with better sights, 3 lb. trigger and a short, 1911-type reset, with 1/2 the recoil, and that’s gotm4’s competition pistol. We have four now, and I expect it to grow.
Surprised? Nah, we know M4arc has no willpower when it comes to buying new guns!
Okay, okay, okay…
I’ll admit when I’m wrong and I’ll accept all the ribbing. Like Doc said, I don’t need much of an excuse to buy a new gun. I actually bought this one last week but I just picked it up yesterday. I’ll provide a more detailed Range Report later but let me just say that I’m impressed!
ETA: I owe Sam an apology for giving him a hard time in the other thread as well as eating my Crow. Whoever said you can’t have your Crow and eat it too? :o
Crow tastes good especially w/Pace Picante sauce and salt & pepper .
Just keep an open mind, never stop learning, ‘the M&P is a way’, it isn’t ‘the way’.
The pistol is only good as it’s shooter. If you can shoot well you can shoot a Glock well, if you can shoot well you can shoot an M&P well.
Glocks are still great and I still enjoy mine and always will, I still carry one but I also sometimes carry my M&P40 or M&P9c.
If the bastion of Glock has fallen, what hope do I have?
Is resistance really futile?
HUH!
Based on my limited experience at this point I would say that at the very least test drive an M&P. I’m not selling my Glocks by any means but I am very impressed so far with the M&P 9mm. If you’re down this way anytime soon you are more than welcome to abuse mine for awhile. I want to put this thing through the ringer.
Dang, don’t you sleep in? I’m first in line for the Glocks!
The little man had hockey practice at 7:30am and the damn dog woke me up at 0500 to pee. I figured I’d just stay up and drink coffee because if I went back to bed I would have overslept.
It felt good to sleep at all last night after my marathon the night before! I’ll get some ammo together for the M&P, boss gave me a pass–
speaking of coffee, if you are by Fairfield, check out the Beach Brew. Get a Tosora, something like that-4 shots of expresso