My finger just seems to “know” where the reset is, click or no click.
Shoot more, think less.
I agree with John Wayne.
This is not a Glock. If you want a Glock IMHO, go buy one.
For taking my time and just plinking, more of a tactile reset would be nice, but not a must have. As for an audible one… Useless, for me anyway. Once I get dialed in to a weapon, I just know where the reset is. If anything, the feel of a reset is enough. If you are shooting on the move and/or in a fight, you won’t hear it anyway.
The DCAEK is perfect, AS IS. Thank you for making it.
Being a 1911 shooter, I would like the reset to be shorter on the M&P and the Apex kits seem to help with this. I have not had the opportunity to try the DCAEK kit yet.
Feeling the reset is importantant to some but after many years of just getting to know the gun I carry has proved more beneficial to me.
If we go ahead with the project, it should be around the $20.00 mark and while the prototype took a few hours to make, it took roughly 3 minutes to install. I wanted to make sure the kit is as easy to install as our sear.
All I can say about Smith is that at least we have their attention… 
Bingo, and for any handgun. And it doesn’t have to be hard, so much as it is distinct from the rest of the trigger movement.
Every M4/analogue and other rifle I’ve ever shot has a distinct reset, and it helps. You can feel it and it’s unmistakable, like that final thud you can feel that tells you your magazine just went dry. I personally like having my rifle and pistol triggers feel more or less the same, with the difference being simply weight of pull.
Hearing a click on reset…there’s a serious logic disconnect, there. That’s a result or a by-product, not a practical goal.
I prefer the tactile reset on the Glock. With the Gen. 4 upgrades, I’m moving away from the M&P.
At a $20 price point, That really has my attention, the beauty of it is, If I don’t like it, I can always remove it… I see it as just another option…
As a long time glock shooter (1991), the lack of an audible and tactile reset has keep me from embracing the M&P platform. I really wanted to buy a .45 this year for my 45th birthday. The longer reset and lack of a glock like trigger made me pass on the M&P and go with the G21SF.
For my money, if the platform had a “glock” trigger with the existing frame mounted safety/superior ergos, I would by a .40 cal tomorrow. If it worked like I think it would, I would probably convert to the platform lock, stock and barrel. ( i.e. buy another .40, a couple of 9s and a .45).
As others have said, if you are new to the platform, you do not know what you do not know such that it is likely fine right out of the box even without the great APEX stuff.
YMMV greatly.
I’ve carried Glocks for most of my professional career and only recently began carrying the M&P. My complaints with the stock trigger had less to do with the reset and more with the crunchy take up and shitty break. The Apex DCAEK fixed those issues for me. I would mind a more tactile forceful reset but it’s nit a deal breaker for me. The clicky noise couldn’t matter less for me.
From the replies it seems that many would not mind a more positive reset. If it is there, it’s a plus, but not necessary.
I need to rephrase my original post. The audible aspect of the reset is a secondary artifact of the more positive/tactile reset. It is also only noticeable during dry fire.
-Randy
I am also hoping someone will point the engineers at Smith to this thread.
The M&P is the only gun I have in the safe (I think) that doesn’t have a definitive tactile reset. All of my Glocks, 1911’s, and H&K’s do and I miss it terribly on the M&P.
Mr. Lee,
Thank you and the other folks at Apex for making the products that you do.
ALL of my M&P handguns feature the DCAEK, and for me, given the nature of the M&P’s trigger reset out of the box, it’s almost a must for me.
As a die hard Glock shooter for the better part of a decade, I like having a strong reset, and prefer a tactile feel.
A slight audible “click” is value added, but not mandatory, IMHO.
I fully concur with what John_Wayne777, JSantoro, and SWATcop1911 have written above. Even though I have only been shooting M&P’s a relatively short amount of time, I am already shooting them nearly as well as the 1911’s I’ve used for 25 years and better than the Glocks I’ve shot for 20 years. The recent stock M&P triggers work OK; the APEX duty kits make them superb. I could care less about hearing reset, however a short, fast, positive tactile reset is definitely a nice feature.
It’s not just that I learned to shoot handgun with a Glock that I like the reset. I shoot an AR quite a bit as well and it also has a very distinct reset.
I also don’t like two stage triggers on my carbines (precision rifle yes, carbine no) because the reset is “off” and kicks my trigger finger forward.
I can learn to shoot a different trigger but prefer a very distinct reset.
…then I’ll take 4.
I had the chance to try a gun with just the sear and usb and it felt great as is. An audible click isn’t a big deal to me as long as you can feel the reset.
For me it’s not so much that I want that ultra sproingy reset, it’s that I can and have short stroked the trigger in very fast shooting scenarios. For example, one of the stages of fire in my qualification was 2 shots in 1 second from the low ready position. I short stroked it then while trying to maintain good trigger discipline. I also was able to short stroke it while shooting 3 shots in 4 seconds at 7 yards from the holster. Thankfully when that happened I always had enough time to reset and fire again.
My problem is when the stock trigger rebound spring is compressed back to the normal closed position and there is virtually ZERO resistence, the trigger is not quite reset. Maybe I’m just retarded, but when I’m getting yelled at by instructors, and I have but 1 second to fire two rounds, I don’t have time to find the reset…I want it to just be there when the trigger return spring tension goes from noticeable to not noticeable.
hahaha, good for you…
now, first of all, the question was about tactile reset. then it morphed into audible. I’m responding to tactile reset, I can’t even hear a Glock’s reset with earpro on.
is it absolutely essential? some people think so.
would most people want it? I’d bet so. I do.
is there a market? definitely…
You can get a M&P to reset very Glock like. The sear has to be just right to do it though just a hair to much and the very glock like reset is gone by by buy new sear. Corresponded to Dan Burwell on the subject seems that every M&P have a slightly different sweet spot on the sear do to production variances.
I haven’t tried to apex I wonder how close it would come to custom gunsmithed one?
Randy - If you make it, I’m buying it. 